In otherwords, God was ACTUALLY TRULLY perceived by mankind, in the person of Jesus Christ.The express image.The fullness of the Godhead.The spirit of eternal life and love found in obedience.——-Does that make Jesus YHVH himself?Absolutely not.but Jesus was not created in creation. He was not created from fire like the angels. He actually CAME…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 03 2010,08:50)Hi RM:You say:Quote God is Jesus Christ (manifested as)Manifest through, not manifest as.God has spoken to us by His Son, who is the express image of his person.  (Hebrews 1)Love in Christ,MartyIt still means the same thing.if I said God became Jesus Christ, then no that is wrong.But to manifest means: readily…[Read more]

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 30 2010,05:47)Hi RM, So Jesus is not his own God is he? He came to draw men back to his God.No Jesus is not his own God.He is the manifestation of the one true God taken on the role of a Son, to reconcile mankind back to himself through the blood he shed on the cross and the ressurection after.

Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2010,07:28)Quote (RokkaMan @ June 29 2010,18:42)Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2010,18:22)Quote (RokkaMan @ June 28 2010,15:41)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2010,15:32)Hi RM, Name calling is the resort of the confused and desperate. Bad fruit?No it's not, Jesus called the pharisees son's of the devil?Did he produce bad…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2010,07:35)Quote (RokkaMan @ June 30 2010,02:30)Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2010,18:01)Quote (RokkaMan @ June 28 2010,09:43)Sorry ED JOXY is scripturally correct.The Word of God was manifested ( ( (as) ) ) Jesus Christ the man.The Word of God is also known to be God himself both in the OT AND NT.Therefore, by simple logic.God…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2010,07:24)Quote (RokkaMan @ June 29 2010,18:39)John 1:1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 30 2010,07:39)Hi RM, Are you so impatient with dissenters that you would DAMN them?Don't attack God for the mistakes of Man. If I damn you, it doesn't change scripture. —-BTW ED J you need to read the content of the scripture you provide before you present it as a rebuttal, because frankly it has no meaning or bearing…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ June 30 2010,08:02)Quote (RokkaMan @ June 29 2010,18:36)Quote (942767 @ June 29 2010,12:16)Hi RM”:Angels have a “free will” and apparently some did sin as we see from Jude and 2 peter, but they are not cast out into the earth, but are somewhere awaiting judgment day.Quote Jude 1:6And the angels which kept not their first estate,…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 01 2010,10:12)Hi RM, Jesus is the Son of God.He said so.No, I definately agree Jesus is the Son of God.where you're lieing against scripture is when it states Jesus Christ is the manifestation of God.I don't see why you believe it's contradictory to be The Son of God and a Manifestation of God simultaneously?Hasn't anyone…[Read more]

This goes back to my point that God is everything but everything is not God.God is The Angel of The Lord (manifested as)butThe Angel of The Lord is not God.God is Jesus Christ (manifested as)butJesus Christ is not God.——-So if I say, Jesus Christ is God in flesh…that is accurate.If I say Jesus Christ is God (as in YHVH himself)…that is not…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2010,18:01)Quote (RokkaMan @ June 28 2010,09:43)Sorry ED JOXY is scripturally correct.The Word of God was manifested ( ( (as) ) ) Jesus Christ the man.The Word of God is also known to be God himself both in the OT AND NT.Therefore, by simple logic.God manifested in flesh as Jesus Christ.Hi RokkaMan,You should be sorry for…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 29 2010,19:24)hmmmThis is where we stop deviating and we get back on topic.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 29 2010,19:26)Hi RM, Really?Parental love is all you offer?It's not even parental love, it's brotherly love.For you are my brother in christ.Do brothers not quarrel and squabble at times?Even name call?I too am human, am I not?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 29 2010,19:26)HI RM, So no Jesus there? Why did you say his name was?Actually Jesus was there….did you miss the part in John 14 where it said…….the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. —-Damn Nick, open and READ your damn bible before you come here debating.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 29 2010,19:29)Hi RM, Jesus is the Son of God not a manifestation of God. O you mean the Spirit of Christ in him?Then you are claiming scripture is lieing.

God's truth prevails!

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2010,20:38)Hi RM,Let your mind be transformed by renewal.Scripture will guide you.It already has.I used to hate people, now I love them.Not only my mind but my heart and spirit have all be transformed.

Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2010,18:22)Quote (RokkaMan @ June 28 2010,15:41)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2010,15:32)Hi RM, Name calling is the resort of the confused and desperate. Bad fruit?No it's not, Jesus called the pharisees son's of the devil?Did he produce bad fruit?Nope.—–In conclusion, you've made an inaccurate statement.Hi RokkaMan,John…[Read more]

John 1:1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of…[Read more]