Ramblinrose replied to the topic Conception in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Ramblinrose @ April 20 2006,21:23)NickI understand from posts that you believe Mary to be the biological mother of Yahshua.Above you have said that you believe that YHWH is his father.A seed is from a man, not a woman. Genealogies are through the men, not the women. The OT prophesies repeatedly state that the Messiah will come from the &…[Read more]
Ramblinrose replied to the topic Conception in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 20 2006,22:42)Hi WIT, Welcome back. A son cannot have two fathers unless one is an adoptive one.Quote 1 Chronicles 28:6 And he said unto me, Solomon thy son, he shall build my house and my courts: for I have chosen him to be my son, and I will be his father.Solomon was the son of David yet he was also the son of…[Read more]
Ramblinrose replied to the topic Conception in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 7 months ago
NickI understand from posts that you believe Mary to be the biological mother of Yahshua.Above you have said that you believe that YHWH is his father.A seed is from a man, not a woman. Genealogies are through the men, not the women. The OT prophesies repeatedly state that the Messiah will come from the 'seed of David'. How do you deal with…
Ramblinrose replied to the topic Conception in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 7 months ago
Quote (t8 @ April 20 2006,12:00)How can he be a seed if he didn't exist before the fruit?How can he be the vine, if some branches existed before him?How can he be the seed of David, if David is older than him?How can he be the root of David, if he doesn't predate David?Who was the ONLY mediator between God and Man, pre-2000 years ago?Quote How can…[Read more]
Ramblinrose replied to the topic Conception in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 7 months ago
Quote (t8 @ April 20 2006,12:00)However if we are to believe that Christ as the Logos never existed before being conceived of Mary, then how can you believe all these points.the seed of Abraham the branchthe seed of Davidthe Root and the Offspring of Davidthe mediator between God and ManHe fullfilled all the prophesies, I don't understand the…[Read more]
Ramblinrose replied to the topic Conception in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 20 2006,11:38)Hi RR, But about none of these does it say”The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy Child shall be called the Son of God”Quote Luke 1:35And the angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of…[Read more]
Ramblinrose replied to the topic Conception in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 20 2006,11:06)Hi RR, If you say that Jesus was the result of a natural human union, as we all are, and yet say his conception was of the Holy Ghost, then so must all of ours be too surely?The Holy Spirit (power of YHWH) came upon Mary to ensure her fertility ’for the fullness of time had come’. I don’t believe he com…[Read more]
Ramblinrose replied to the topic Conception in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 20 2006,11:01)Hi RR, So is THE HOLY ONE of GOD greater than these others?What is the difference between a son of God and THE Son of God?Do you believe Christ is no greater than Moses?Was Christ God's representative or did God speak and work through him as a vessel?Your questions have become foolish.Anyone that has been…[Read more]
Ramblinrose replied to the topic Conception in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 19 2006,21:57)Hi RR, So we are all conceived of the Holy Spirit as to our natural life? You are off the planet there.Where did I say the above Nick?
Ramblinrose replied to the topic Conception in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 20 2006,10:25)Hi RR,He is the Son of God but God is not his Father?In what way is he the Holy One of God? Are men Holy?Let us see.Quote Mark 1:24 Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art, the Holy One (40) of God.Luke 4:34 …[Read more]
Ramblinrose replied to the topic Conception in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 19 2006,22:23)Hi RR, Your answer on page 15 of the “are we born with sin?” forum confirms what I had come to believe. You deny the only begotten Son of God. He is but a man to you and no more a son of God than any other Jewish man.He is not ‘but a man’ to me – HE IS:the prophet like unto Mosesthe seed of Abrahamthe rod…[Read more]
Ramblinrose replied to the topic Conception in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 7 months ago
Deuteronomy 6:4 “Hear, O Israel: YHWH our God, YHWH is one!Amen
Ramblinrose replied to the topic Conception in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 7 months ago
SSWhy have you left out Luke 1:36 when it is the verse being discussed for Luke 1.37.Luke 1:34 Then Mary said to the angel, “How can this be, since I do not know a man?”Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is t…[Read more]
Ramblinrose replied to the topic Conception in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 19 2006,10:55)Hi RR, Where did the “by yourself ” come from? It still makes a liar out of Mary and a rogue out of Joseph.No so amigo.20But while he thought on these things, behold , the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife : for…[Read more]
Ramblinrose replied to the topic Conception in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 19 2006,11:56)And what does “of the Holy Spirit” mean to you in Matt 1.20?You also have never addressed the question I posed about in which way is Jesus the Son of God?Your first question was answered in part (e) of the above and I have answered question two in the 'Are we born with SIN' topic on page 15.
Ramblinrose replied to the topic Conception in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 7 months ago
Quote Matt 1:20 But while he thought about these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife, for that which is conceived(1080) in her is of the Holy Spirit.Reinterpretation:But while he thought on these things, behold, an angel of YHWH appeared to…[Read more]
Ramblinrose replied to the topic Conception in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 7 months ago
I do not have a problem with the writer of the article using 'age' as I understand the verse as follows:Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God (mighty god-like one), Everlasting Father (Father of Eternity), Prince…[Read more]
Ramblinrose replied to the topic Conception in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 7 months ago
The following article sheds light on how to better understand Isaiah 9.6Isaiah 9:6
Ramblinrose replied to the topic Conception in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2006,20:50)Quote (Ramblinrose @ April 16 2006,10:57)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2006,10:22)Yes RR, But not about living men who usurp the role of God.Quote Acts 5:34 Then one in the council stood up, a Pharisee named Gamaliel, a teacher of the law held in respect by all the people, and commanded them to put the…[Read more]
Ramblinrose replied to the topic Conception in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2006,20:53)Hi RR, So it means a relative of some kind, including possibly a cousin, but scripture does not specify how close that relationship is. I am sure I have relations who do not know me and whom I have never heard of.Why would Mary leave so quickly and stay with Elizabeth for three months if she was a relative…[Read more]
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