Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 15 2011,11:44)Irene,Compound unities are referred to by the singular pronoun and can have a name by which they are called.  That is what Jehovah is, the name of the compound unity.  You admit that Jesus was with the Father at creation and even put up Isaiah 45:18:Is. 45:18  “For thus saith the LORD that created the heav…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 15 2011,17:13)So Irene, you believe in the compound unity of the Father and the Son and that it is called 'the Godhead?'  Is that right?Did you know that Jesus' name means 'Jehovah saves?'KathiNo Kathi!  I gave you the name of Jesus and you ignored that part….Jesus name is Yeshu or Yeshua…Jesus comes from the G…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 15 2011,16:38)Mike,Quote Kathi, can you show me any SCRIPTURAL evidence, proof, or even an inkling that Satan is less than a real, bonafide god?'Seriously, Mike, you think that satan is a real bonafide god now?  Wow, I'll bet your 'bonafide god' is ready to give you and the peanut gallery that follow you some party hats.…[Read more]

Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: Rev 3:14 ¶ And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; Irene

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 15 2011,13:47)Irene,Well that is a start.you said in your post above:Quote Their name for their unity is the Godhead and not Jehovah.Tell me where it says that their name for their unity is 'the Godhead.'  Please show me your scriptures.  Also, please tell me who is meant by 'their' in your statement.Thanks,KathiKathi! W…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 15 2011,11:32)Irene,Compound unities go by one name and within compound unities there is often found one that is head over another.  That in no way takes away from the fact of the compound unity.  You deny the unity of the Father and the Son. There are so many verses in the NT that link the two names.  Maybe I will make a…[Read more]

Kathi! These are all Scriptures that proof that the LORD who you agree is Jehovah, is one LORD (Jehovah) and not a unity with our Heavenly Father and His Son…. Ex. 8:10 “… know that there is none like unto the LORD (Jehovah) God.”Deut. 4:35”…know that the LORD (Jehovah) he is God, there is none else beside him”.Is. 40:13 “Who has direc…[Read more]

Kerwin!  So The Word of God in both Scriptures are not who became Jesus?  Then who is it in Rev 19:13   And he clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.   Rev 19:14   And the armies in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.   Rev 19:15   And out of his mouth goeth…[Read more]

Kathi! I was just reading what you said to Keith….. When I pointed out that you believed in a half a trinity, you didn't like it, yet it is not right in your eyes to say the trinity is a wrong doctrine to follow. It is and has always been a wrong doctrine to follow…. it is a man made doctrine and not of God….The Holy Spirit is not a…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 12 2011,05:42)georgThank you for the greetings, how about taking on these questions?Georgwhat you think it means ?that some have crowns and some do not,?horns means i believe ruling kings ,PierreYes, a horn symbolizes power, ruler or king.A crown symbolizes power to rule.So why are there seven crowns on the one beast; ten…[Read more]

Mark! Hope you had a good time….. There are several Scriptures that make the trinity wring. I really didn't want to go into it, but….to worship Jesus is as much wrong to me then to worship Maria…. mainly by Jeus own words He said that Hos Father is greater then He is…. Also that the Father is above all and I believe that includes…[Read more]

Before Adam was created the Angels were already in Heaven, and that is when Lucifer was rebelling against God and wanted to sit on Gods Throne….These next Scriptures talk about when Lucifer enter Heaven and fought with Micheal and His Angels…. Hate to bust your bubbles, but they did exist… Also where in Scripture sdoes it say that Adam was…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Aug. 14 2011,21:28)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 14 2011,04:26)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 13 2011,12:24)Isnt it true that the sons of God (including angels and those who are reconciled) is something entirely different from “the son of God, the Son of Man”Hi DTrue except angels are never called “sons” neither are they…[Read more]

Keith! Not only what you have been saying, but also that the Holy Spirit is not a person… It is the Spirit of our Heavenly Father….And they are not a trinity…. that is a man made doctrine…. can I proof it, yes….Peace Irene

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 13 2011,15:43)Irene,Jehovah made all things alone.  The Son was with God in the beginning and through the Son all things were made.  That is two persons, Irene.  One God and one Lord 1 Cor 8:6Two persons made all things…and they were alone before they made all things.  They are Jehovah.KathiKathi!  What does it take to m…[Read more]

Marty!  Don't you see what you are doing??? Quote In is through Jesus, the last Adam, that God had forseen the culmination and fulfillment of his plan for this world and for humanity and the world to come.This is not what that Scripture in Col. 1:15 says   You are adding, and that is npt good….Read it againCol 1:15   Who is the image of the in…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 14 2011,01:36)Hi Irene:The following scripture:Quote Revelation 3:14″And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write: `These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God:Is explained by the following scripture:Quote Colossians 1:18And He is the head of the body, the…[Read more]

Paladin! You make it sound like that the cross is the object of our salvation, which it is not…..It is Jesus blood, the ransom of His life…..Mar 10:45 For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many. 1Ti 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.…[Read more]

Kathi!  That does not prove that Jesus is Jehovah's name…. That is what you are to prove, which you did not.,….againPsa 83:18   That may know that thou, whose name alone JEHOVAH, the most high over all the earth. It is His name ALONE…. not BOTH of their names…..Psa 68:4   Sing unto God, sing praises to his name: extol him that rideth up…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 12 2011,02:11)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 11 2011,13:24)Prior to the creation of the second born of all creation, Marty.  So, when was the second born (most likely one of God's angels) created?  Whenever that was, Jesus was created BEFORE that one.mikeHi Mike:What!  I don't even know where to begin to answer your response, and so…[Read more]