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    Shimmer! I read some of the article on reincarnation….. At first thought it is a myth, and I don't believe it. However I do remember a long time ago, I was cleaning the Bathtub, and it felt like I had done this before a long time ago…. It was a weird feeling…. But I don't put to much believe in it…. I also don't believe in NDE… It…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 21 2011,18:09)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 21 2011,02:42)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 19 2011,05:00)Hi Kerwin,Religious 'brainwashing' (also called indoctrination) is hard to undo. (See Colossians 2:21-22)Consider how Mike is still stuck on John 1:1 in the N.W.T rendered as 'a god' from the JW's indoctrination.God blessEd JWho do you think…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 20 2011,07:58)Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 19 2011,15:14)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 19 2011,15:53)Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 19 2011,02:31)Kerwin !  I gave you plenty of Scriptures, its up to you if you believe them or not……Peace IreneIrene,Do you believe scripture when it states that Jesus' human body is the seed of David?If you do then you…[Read more]

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    Shimmer! I looked this up, I don't believe this either, because it is not according to any Scrioptures that all preexisted as Jesus did…..but it is interesting.. School of Alexandria · Basil of Caesarea · Jerome · Augustine Origen (Greek: Ὠριγένης Ōrigénēs), or Origen Adamantius, 184/5–253/4, was an early Christian Alexandrian scholar and theol…[Read more]

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    Ed You got to be kidding me…. The Angels are not born, they were created…. When one third of them sinned, Satan and His Angels where cast out to this earth. They are all around us, not as Human beings….or flesh and blood….Quote ohn 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee,Except a man be born of water and the Spirit,he cannot…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 19 2011,22:14)Quote We agree that Colossians 1:18 is speaking of the new creation.But I wish to direct your attention to verse 17 and ask you if you believe that all the old creation holds together in Christ Jesus especially since the purpose of the new covenant, according to verse 18, is that in all things Jesus the Son of…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic The Beast Revelation in the forum Prophecy 13 years, 1 month ago

    shimmerMost of it is correct.Georg

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    Quote here is a difference he now has a spiritual body, and he is the head of the church, and our human masters have a mortal body, and may or not be saved.Marty! Since you believe that Jesus has a Spiritual body now and is seated at the right hand of His Father, do you now see this too??Jhn 17:4   I have glorified thee on the earth: I have…[Read more]

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    And as far as I know, I'm the only one on HN who believes the “a god” translation of John 1:1Mike!No, you are not the only one, God is a title and so is The Word of God….. Jehovah God is above all Eph. 4:6I see God as a Family name…. The Family of God…. which we are now members of, all born again Christians that is….Some just are not…[Read more]

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    Pierre good post!!!!  Jesus was not only the Son of men, but also the Son of God the only begotten Son of God….. Mat 16:13 ¶ When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am I? Mat 16:14   And they said, Some John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or on…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 21 2011,02:24)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 19 2011,22:52)He then goes on to speak of heavenly things by saying “No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.”I ask you to judge for yourself if Jesus was speaking of his physical body or the Holy Spirit within him as a heavenly thing.So now t…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic The Beast Revelation in the forum Prophecy 13 years, 1 month ago

    PierreWhat you have come up with is not only scriptural incorrect, but historically wrong also.Two years into their captivity, 604 BC, the king had a dream; the statue, and Daniel interpret the dream for the king. he tells the king he is the head of gold.Dan 2:38   And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 1 month ago

    Kerwin, no the is not what I am saying.  Col 1:15   Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:   Col 1:16   For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:   T…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 20 2011,16:25)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 19 2011,17:00)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 15 2011,08:58)Mike,Compare Revelations 19:13 to Ephesians 6:17 where the Spirit is literally stated to be the Word,Hi Kerwin,Religious 'brainwashing' (also called indoctrination) is hard to undo. (See Colossians 2:21-22)Consider how Mike is still stuck on John…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 19 2011,22:00)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 15 2011,08:58)Mike,Compare Revelations 19:13 to Ephesians 6:17 where the Spirit is literally stated to be the Word,Hi Kerwin,Religious 'brainwashing' (also called indoctrination) is hard to undo. (See Colossians 2:21-22)Consider how Mike is still stuck on John 1:1 in the N.W.T rendered as 'a…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 20 2011,07:58)Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 19 2011,15:14)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 19 2011,15:53)Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 19 2011,02:31)Kerwin !  I gave you plenty of Scriptures, its up to you if you believe them or not……Peace IreneIrene,Do you believe scripture when it states that Jesus' human body is the seed of David?If you do then you…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic The Beast Revelation in the forum Prophecy 13 years, 1 month ago

    PierreYou overlooked the first beast.Dan 7:4   The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.  The Lion was Babylon; is the “FIRST” beast. Dan 7:5   And behold another beast, a second, li…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 19 2011,22:14)Quote We agree that Colossians 1:18 is speaking of the new creation.But I wish to direct your attention to verse 17 and ask you if you believe that all the old creation holds together in Christ Jesus especially since the purpose of the new covenant, according to verse 18, is that in all things Jesus the Son of…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic Last days in the forum Prophecy 13 years, 1 month ago

    Mark! Shimmer is right Revelation is hard to understand. If you watch Ancient History or read up on it, it explains it easier…. Georg is pretty good at it….You also have to have a good memory, which I lack…When we just read the Book of Revelation there is a blessing attached…. So read it often…… and I should follow my own…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 1 month ago

    Quote We agree that Colossians 1:18 is speaking of the new creation.But I wish to direct your attention to verse 17 and ask you if you believe that all the old creation holds together in Christ Jesus especially since the purpose of the new covenant, according to verse 18, is that in all things Jesus the Son of God might have supremacy.Kerwin!…[Read more]

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