Mike! While you at it, look up Quintus Septimus Florence Tertuallian…..might be spelled wrong, He came up with the trinity doctrine in the third century, and Constantine made it Law…. Constantine did more then that….Peace Irene

Ed, did you read my post? I don't believe that all things that the JW believe is all bad….. We had many conversations with them, and I believe they have done away with some bad things, and have learned what the Bible teaches about the Sabbath and other things…. I liked when they came around, I like to debate Scriptures. We learned about the…[Read more]

shimmer! The JW I don't believe are that they don't believe in healing, they don't believe in blood transfusion…. but the believe that God is the healer of all things. Irene

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 15 2011,12:26)allLook it this way ,Adam prior to receiving the breath of live = a parked car , Adam with the breath of live = car start moving and adding miles,road map ,places ,ect.the soul = the driverPierre

Quote If you have not yet ontained the righteousness that is like God's then you should realize that you are at times decieved by Satan.  I am merely stating that Satan has pulled a quick one on you by hiding a poison pill in the teachings you have chosen to believe in.  So why be offended that I state Satan has been up to his old tricks and has s…[Read more]

Mike! There is nothing plural about Jehovah God, and the Creator and Maker, whatever you want to call our God,,,, He is ONE there is none beside Him…..American Standard Version (ASV) Deu 4:35 Unto thee it was showed, that thou mightest know that Jehovah he is God; there is none else besides him. American Standard Version (ASV) Deu 6:4 Hear, O…[Read more]

I like to go back to Isaiah 54:5 and see the different version of it…King James Version (KJV) Isa 54:5 For thy Maker thine husband; the LORD of hosts his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called. New Living Translation (NLT) Isa 54:5 For your Creator will be your husband; the LORD of…[Read more]

Kathi! Then why does it say Jehovah is God the Most Hogh God ALONE in \Psa 83:18 that they may know that you alone, whose name is the LORD, are the Most High over all the earth. The Bible does not contradict itself. Mike and t8 are right…..Irene

Mike! The trinity doctrine has three Gods, Almighty God, Jesus God and the Holy Spirit God. Also in Ancient times many were called Gods. Kings, Governors, even Majors…. all that were in offices….For example there is Adrammelech and Anammelech (2 Kings 17:31), Asherah (1 Kings 18:19), Baal (Judges 3:7), Chemosh (Num. 21:29), Dagon (1 Sam.…[Read more]

Paladin! How do you explain the Scriptures I just posted for Kerwin?? Irene

The JW believe that Jesus did preexisted…. It was one of their members that used to come to our House and made us aware of John 1 being the beginning of the creation of Jesus the Word of God…. It took us several weeks to come to that understanding how right they are in that doctrine…..We also had a conversation about the 144,000. What they…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 15 2011,08:44)Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 15 2011,02:12)Hi All!  So confusing… but Georg agree's with Gene… that the Soul is the body….His explanation is that first that God did not give us the Soul, we became a Living Soul.Hi Irene.But it is also possible that Adam was a soul housed in a body, and became a living soul when the…[Read more]

Quote I have no idea why you believe that an individual with either 50% spirit body and 50% flesh body or 100% spirit body and 100% flesh body would have preeminence. Colossians 1:15-18 certainly does not support that belief.————–Kerwin! Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. Jesus is the…[Read more]

Quote QuoteKERWIN!  This is what your friend said too, and that is what we were also discussing….Jehovah, God the Most High God ALONE, His name ALONE….  I stress ALONE, because of Kathi believing Jehovah is the Compound Unity of Jesus and His Father….I believe that Jehovah is the one and only true God.  I question whether you have been de…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Sep. 14 2011,21:53)Here is where the dog chases his tail. James states that faith without works is dead. If you have faith and love God, you will do something good. If you are doubtful or wicked, you will do bad things. Not only will you do bad things but your mouth will give forth unrightiousness.  This is a plain as day…[Read more]

This is a post that Gene made…. I don't always agree with Gene, but in this case He has given us the real translation in  Hebrew what Soul, Spirit and body means…. terricca……….Simple look up the word used there for Soul and you will find it is SPIRIT (Ruach) breathe , not Naphesh (Soul) or a Being)>  Look it up and that might solve y…[Read more]

I made this post some time agoGroup: Regular MembersPosts: 2354Joined: Aug. 2010 Posted: Feb. 20 2011,22:40 QUOTESome more scriptures about the Soul or Body….Pro 11:25 The liberal soul shall be made fat: and he that watereth shall be watered also himself. question, can a Spirit be made fat?Pro 11:30 The fruit of the righteous a tree of…[Read more]

Hi All! So confusing… but Georg agree's with Gene… that the Soul is the body….His explanation is that first that God did not give us the Soul, we became a Living Soul…. all Animals are also Souls,,,Nefesh in Hebrew- they have a Body, but not a mind or Spirit. In fact all living things are Souls or have a body….one Scripture I looked at…[Read more]

Further, when a sinner's soul is destroyed, is God destroying his own spirit?t8 We have a Spirit correct, that is what goes back to God…. When those who will get the lake of fire the wicked etc. God will destroy both Spirit and Body there…..That is why it says don't fear of who can destroy the body, but destroy body and Soul or Spirit….Mat…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 11 2011,20:30)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 10 2011,17:38)I agree but I will also point out that you are making a similar error it is clear that a Son is of the same kind as his physical Sire and since Jehovah is of the physical God kind then Jesus would also be of the physical God kind just like Jehovah.  But Jehovah is  not of a p…[Read more]