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    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 19 2011,23:33)Quote (kenrch @ Dec. 01 2005,09:35)Why isn't the name Jehovah not mentioned in the New Testament?Jesus didn't call the Father, Jehovah.  Would it have been disrespectful for God's only Son to call Him by His name, Jehovah?  Did God's name change to Father in the New Testament?  I would like to know!Hi ke…[Read more]

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    Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 19 2011,14:45)Hi GeorgI will answer your other questions nowyou asked;Where do you read that only the Israelis will be raised from the dead?Show me scriptures please.Micah 4:6   In that day, saith the Lord, will I assemble HER that was DRIVEN OUT, and HER that I have AFFLICTED.Micah 4:7   And I will make HER that HALTED a R…[Read more]

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    Marlin1All the saints are the bride, the body of Christ; some of them are chosen to be kings; sitting with Christ on his throne, but not all.Mat 20:20 ¶ Then came to him the mother of Zebedee's children with her sons, worshipping , and desiring a certain thing of him. Mat 20:21 And he said unto her, What wilt thou? She saith unto him, Grant…[Read more]

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    WakeupI agree there are two resurrections, and as you said, they are not at the same time.As for the 144000, notice this.Rev 14:1 ¶ And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. They have the Fathers name written in their forehead; what…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic Image of the Beast in the forum Prophecy 12 years, 9 months ago

    DevolutionLet me show you something that most people are not aware of.Exd 24:12 ¶ And the LORD said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, and a law, and commandments which I have written; that thou mayest teach them.  Exd 34:28   And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he…[Read more]

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    DevolutionYou would have to try real hard to offend me.I do not however, agree with all of what you said, and I will try to show you why.By the way, I too have stopped going to any of the local churches.I always try to back up my claims, my comments, and believes, with scriptures; although, to some people that doesn't matter.I think that first of…[Read more]

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    journey42Why ask the question, who will Christ and his saints be ruling over?, and then give us scriptures that answer the question? Jesus and the saints will eventually rule over the whole earth, all people, as all people will be resurrected during the 1000 reign. He will start with teaching the Jews first, but gradually, as all people are…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Dec. 17 2011,08:59)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Dec. 17 2011,08:39)Quote (Pastry @ Dec. 17 2011,08:18)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Dec. 17 2011,07:48)Quote (Pastry @ Dec. 15 2011,00:42)Quote Yes, it is in accordance with Scripture!————–That is no answer at all, no Scripture given… that is backing out of explanation and it is not…[Read more]

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    Marlin1You do know that Mountain is a metaphor for kingdom, right?The woman/church “sitting” on these seven heads/mountain/kingdoms, is to show that “all” kingdoms were influenced by their religion.II THES 2:3 † Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be r…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic Image of the Beast in the forum Prophecy 12 years, 9 months ago

    DevolutionYou must have noticed that I was speaking of the 7 headed beasts in Revelation?Yes, in Daniel 7, the fourth beast is the only one with ten horn; that is to point out that this “little horn/ruler” had its beginning during the Roman rule; a small beginning before it grew powerful and strong. So perhaps you read my post again and then let…[Read more]

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    Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 17 2011,13:13)GeorgWhat does, 'meet the Lord in the air' mean? how far up? does it not say the Lord is coming down, v. 16?I agree with you on this, that it is just another dimension. Jerusalem will be attacked, not to long from now.I also agree with you on this1Cor. 15:51 applies only to the saints, first resurrection.That is…[Read more]

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    Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 17 2011,13:07)Quote (Pastry @ Dec. 17 2011,06:11)Hi GeorgThank you for your explaination.I'm going to pick your brain!I need a clear answer.I agree with you.  Christ's 2nd return starts the begininning of the millenium.  We know from the scriptures that Satan gets locked up in the bottomless pit for a thousand years.We k…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Dec. 17 2011,07:48)Quote (Pastry @ Dec. 15 2011,00:42)Quote Yes, it is in accordance with Scripture!————–That is no answer at all, no Scripture given… that is backing out of explanation and it is not according to what Jesus said, that they do not worship the Father……..and you do not either by worship to…[Read more]

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    Marlin1Look at these scriptures.Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. The…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic Image of the Beast in the forum Prophecy 12 years, 9 months ago

    DevolutionI do thank you for the great effort you have made to explain to me your understanding.I wont go through point by point you have made, instead I will give you my understanding of the matter, hoping you wont be offended, rather let it be food for thought.THE SEVEN HEADED BEASTSIn the book of Daniel we have read about four beasts, and…[Read more]

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    Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 16 2011,18:18)Georg,I guess you could see 2 Thes 4 that way, but that isn't what it says.  It says,Then we which are       ALIVE and remain shall be CAUGHT up TOGETHER with them in the clouds.LUKE 21:36 † Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass,…[Read more]

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    Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 16 2011,17:06)Marlin1You are right, the last trumpet did announce his second coming, but it was only heard by the 'dead in Christ'; first resurrection; this however is not the beginning of his reign, it is the “setting up” of his kingdom, meaning, he has to prepare all of his saints to get ready to rule with him.Hi GeorgI…[Read more]

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    Marlin1You are right, the last trumpet did announce his second coming, but it was only heard by the 'dead in Christ'; first resurrection; this however is not the beginning of his reign, it is the “setting up” of his kingdom, meaning, he has to prepare all of his saints to get ready to rule with him.Dan 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall…[Read more]

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    Marlin1The term, 'time of the Gentiles', refers to the time the Jews/Israelis were ruled over by Gentile nations; they are no longer ruled over, they are a nation again. There is no other 'time of the Gentiles'.God has been calling people from all over the world, ever since Jesus died on the cross.But it is God who does the calling, we don't…[Read more]

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    Marlin1Jesus came the first time to die for us; his sacrifice opened the doors of our graves.1Cr 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. He will come again in all of his glory as a spirit being, as King of kings; but no human eye will actually see him; here is the reason.Rev 1:16 And he had in his right hand…[Read more]

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