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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 29 2012,03:15)TO ALL,The Jehovah's Witnesees and the Christadelphians deny that God appeared to men in the old testament. The “proof text” they offer is a partial quote from John 1:18 which in the KJV says,“No man has SEEN God at any time.”The problem with their interpretation is that the word “horao” (to see) in John…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 07 2012,14:19)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 06 2012,03:06)What do you want me to think about it, Ed?  It doesn't say one word about Jesus having already come the second time.  ???Does Ed believe that Jesus has already come (the second time)?If so, we are warned about believing people who say this.When Jesus comes, we will not have to s…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 12 years, 9 months ago

    CharlesWhat exactly did you say different, then what I said in 3 lines?Georg

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    Pastry replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 12 years, 9 months ago

    CharlesWhat exactly did you say different, then what I said in 3 lines?Georg

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    Pastry replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 10 2012,12:14)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 10 2012,18:46)Nick,Did you have an answer to my last question or not?  In fact, I notice that you prefer making senseless quips to actually answering the questions I've asked you.  Some things never change, I guess.I'm here to discuss scriptures and defend my understandings.  If yo…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic For Wakeup in the forum The Hot Seat 12 years, 9 months ago

    Wakeup”””WITHOUT HIM WAS NOT ANYTHING MADE THAT WAS MADE.”””Doesn't this refer to the son, Jesus?There is no formula, God created the angels through his son the same way he created him, he spoke and it was done. That's why it says; he, Jesus, is the only begotten son of God, the first born of all creation. Do you have children? how many first born…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 09 2012,12:58)Quote (Pastry @ Feb. 09 2012,19:46)To allWhy do you think Isaiah made this prediction?Isa 11:9   They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.  Is the world full of the knowledge? how many are here on H N, and h…[Read more]

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    Quote (shimmer @ Feb. 09 2012,18:35)Quote (Pastry @ Feb. 09 2012,13:38)Kind of like the pope, eh?Hi Georg.Babylon = The Pope.Babylon =  Herbert Armstrong.Babylon =  World Religions.Babylon =  Governments.Babylon =  Materialism. Etc Etc.Anything Georg can be a Part of Babylon. We are told to get out of Babylon. Soon it will all be Ashes.Georg, we&…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago

    To allWhy do you think Isaiah made this prediction?Isa 11:9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea. Is the world full of the knowledge? how many are here on H N, and how many different opinions do you see?Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 12 years, 9 months ago

    Thank you Mike, I looked at other books, but did not check chapter 3 of Zechariah.OK Charles, I got it.Zec 3:1 ¶ And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him.  The angel of the LORD, the angel of God. Zec 3:2   And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke th…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 12 years, 9 months ago

    Thank you Mike, I looked at other books, but did not check chapter 3 of Zechariah.OK Charles, I got it.Zec 3:1 ¶ And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him.  The angel of the LORD, the angel of God. Zec 3:2   And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke th…[Read more]

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    God is spirit, so is his son; that is the image the son was created in.What is it that God has, the son has, the angels have, and we humans have, but not the animals? We have a mind, that is our image God created us in, we can communicate with God, the animals can't.Georg

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    Pastry replied to the topic For Wakeup in the forum The Hot Seat 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 09 2012,09:00)Quote (Pastry @ Feb. 09 2012,02:44)That's right 42God spoke and his son existed.What do you think of this verse?John 5:37  “And the Father himself, which has sent me, hath born witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.” NO ONE HEARD HIS VOICE “AT ANY TIME”so who was it t…[Read more]

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    kerwinHow can this punishment last for ever when it says this?1Cr 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.It says “destroyed”, when you destroy something, is there anything left?Mal 4:1 ¶ For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that…[Read more]

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    Quote (shimmer @ Feb. 09 2012,08:57)One more thing and then I'm done.Quote:“The most important teaching in Armstrong's belief system is that Herbert W. Armstrong was the prophesied end-time Elijah. As the end-time Elijah, Armstrong was preparing the way for Christ's return by announcing Christ's imminent return.””Next in importance was Herbert's…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 09 2012,07:19)Quote (Pastry @ Feb. 09 2012,12:55)What is the difference in these two scriptures?Gen 1:27   So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.   AndCol 1:15   Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:  Does “image” in the…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 12 years, 9 months ago

    CharlesThis is what I found in Zechariah.Zec 2:1 ¶ I lifted up mine eyes again, and looked, and behold a man with a measuring line in his hand. Zec 2:2 Then said I, Whither goest thou? And he said unto me, To measure Jerusalem, to see what is the breadth thereof, and what is the length thereof. Georg

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    Pastry replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 12 years, 9 months ago

    CharlesThis is what I found in Zechariah.Zec 2:1 ¶ I lifted up mine eyes again, and looked, and behold a man with a measuring line in his hand. Zec 2:2 Then said I, Whither goest thou? And he said unto me, To measure Jerusalem, to see what is the breadth thereof, and what is the length thereof. Georg

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    Pastry replied to the topic For Wakeup in the forum The Hot Seat 12 years, 9 months ago

    Hey Mike good luck with these guys, they don't have any clue what Jesus was before He became flesh…..Peace Irene

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    What is the difference in these two scriptures?Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. AndCol 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: Does “image” in these two scriptures mean the same?Georg

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