Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 09 2011,04:53)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 08 2011,22:41)Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 08 2011,17:57)Let me see wht other translation sayNew Living Translation (NLT) Rev 3:14 “Write this letter to the angel of the church in Laodicea. This is the message from the one who is the Amen—the faithful and true witness, the beginning of God's new c…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 08 2011,17:57)Let me see wht other translation sayNew Living Translation (NLT) Rev 3:14 “Write this letter to the angel of the church in Laodicea. This is the message from the one who is the Amen—the faithful and true witness, the beginning of God's new creation:WoW! Wonder where THAT came from? The beginning of God's new c…

Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 08 2011,07:42)Kathi!   I know what you are after….You will not convince me that both are equal and have the compound unity of Jehovah….. That is for the last time, Kathi is Jesus Fathers name only….. that is according to Scriptures.   Yes, Jehovah God his given Jesus immortality, but that does not make Jesus equal to H…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 08 2011,03:04)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 07 2011,23:22)Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 07 2011,23:07)Quote Of course I believe that Jesus was conceived by Gods Holy Spirit and became man….. That has never been an Issue with me, or others….What we do debate is does Jesus existed before He became a man….Kerwin, I said this….. Quote I have…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 08 2011,02:54)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 07 2011,23:15)Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 07 2011,14:15)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 07 2011,10:07)Irene, when will you recognize that God identified the day Jesus was begotten as the day he became the son of God?”This day have I begotten thee” is quoted in Acts 13:33 referencing the resurrection of Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 07 2011,23:07)Quote Of course I believe that Jesus was conceived by Gods Holy Spirit and became man….. That has never been an Issue with me, or others….What we do debate is does Jesus existed before He became a man….Kerwin, I said this….. Quote I have no idea what you believe the word “conceive” means but I believe it…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 07 2011,14:15)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 07 2011,10:07)Irene, when will you recognize that God identified the day Jesus was begotten as the day he became the son of God?”This day have I begotten thee” is quoted in Acts 13:33 referencing the resurrection of Jesus Christ.Jesus was “declared to be the son of God by the resurrection…[Read more]

Quote Paladin!  So all Christians are the begotten of the Father?  THIS-No Sir….We are begotten from our Parents…. Directly contradicts THIS -John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the w…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 07 2011,06:57) Quote Irene, when are you going to learn that one set of scriptures does not cancel out another?God “begets” our spirits as his children, then “adopts” our bodies to conform to the image of his son. No flesh can please God, bu those who “conform to the image of his dear son” have been adopted thereby.Paladin!…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 06 2011,01:53)Paladin!  At Baptism we received Gods Holy Spirit and now we are considered the Sons of God, we have received the Spirit of adoption….John tells us The The Word of God,who became Jesus, is the ONLY BEGOTTEN OF THE FATHER….we are not begotten of  Jesus Father…..Jesus is the ONLY ONE….Rom 8:14 For as many a…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 06 2011,08:12)To All!  Begotten simple means to beget…. or to bring into existing…. Jesus was the firstborn of all creation….the beginning of the creation of God…end of story… Kathi, of all of your children who is the first begotten?  And which one is the firstborn….END OF STORY……So to you Jesus is “…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 06 2011,01:53)Paladin!  At Baptism we received Gods Holy Spirit and now we are considered the Sons of God, we have received the Spirit of adoption….John tells us The The Word of God,who became Jesus, is the ONLY BEGOTTEN OF THE FATHER….we are not begotten of  Jesus Father…..Jesus is the ONLY ONE….Rom 8:14 For as many a…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 04 2011,12:12)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 03 2011,20:39)Irene – IF THIS IS TRUE -John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.AND THIS -1 Peter 1:3 Blessed…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 03 2011,20:09)I forgot to mention -“Born” and “Begotten” are translated from the same Greek word.

Irene – IF THIS IS TRUE -John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.AND THIS -1 Peter 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 01 2011,15:09)Paladin,I consider these conversations to be public conversation where anyone can join as they see fit.  PM's are for private conversations.What is this in reference to?

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 31 2011,15:27)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 31 2011,08:55)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 29 2011,00:08)Quote (Paladin @ Aug. 27 2011,20:00)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 27 2011,04:44)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 27 2011,01:26)ED j……….Kerwins last statement is correct brother.  Jesus or us did not preexist our berths on this earth, we were all in the…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 30 2011,06:15)Quote (Paladin @ Aug. 29 2011,20:46)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 29 2011,19:34)Hi Paladin,You work real hard to disagree, don't you?nothing hard about disagreeing with your last post to me. it is full of fallacies.”Beginner” tainted by religious training? come on. How is he a beginner?Hi Paladin,The same way a baby is a…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 29 2011,19:34)Hi Paladin,You work real hard to disagree, don't you?Your brother in Christ, Jesus.Ed J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgnothing hard about disagreeing with your last post to me. it is full of fallacies.”Beginner” tainted by religious training? come on. How is he a beginner?

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 29 2011,00:08) Quote (Paladin @ Aug. 27 2011,20:00) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 27 2011,04:44)  Hi Gene, Five Common Fallacies, Don't Be Fooled By Them1) Believing what you currently think the truth is, actually is “The Truth” ?2) Making up scenarios to illustrate this believed truth, is proof that it is true ? ?3) Repeating  ‘it…[Read more]