Quote (thethinker @ July 06 2009,20:29)Paladin said:Quote Yet YOU take the side of the accusing Jews. Wonder why that is. Oh, right, trinitarian. Don't require evidence, just testimony of unbelieving Jews who changed their testimony at his trial.It was John who actually said that Jesus made Himself equal with God. John did NOT say, “They thought…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ July 06 2009,10:14)Quote (bodhitharta @ July 06 2009,04:48)I found a really good source that explains it the whole article is here and the source link is at the bottom. I thought I explained it quite well but some need a more thorough explanation so here it is:The claim is made that the Hebrew word translated “one” means…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 06 2009,04:48)I found a really good source that explains it the whole article is here and the source link is at the bottom. I thought I explained it quite well but some need a more thorough explanation so here it is:The claim is made that the Hebrew word translated “one” means “composite unity”, and therefore this shows…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ July 06 2009,02:02)Quote Hi PDYada, yada, yada.I think his name is “YOda!”Quote But as we have shown you the word “echad” is not always translated as a numeric oneness.“Showed?” Or “CLAIMED?” I musta missed something. Show me from scripture, not from commentaries.To Paladin's remark; “Did you know that the Hebrew word for…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 06 2009,06:35)Hi all!Quote (Paladin @ July 05 2009,10:27)My argument is with the meaning of “pros ton theon” as John uses it in 1:1, versus what the commentators have to say about it.If, as the commentators claim, “pros ton” followed by an “accusative”- “presents a plane of equality and intimacy, face to face with…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 06 2009,06:04)Hi ALLQuote (Paladin @ July 05 2009,09:18)WHAT JESUS SAID;”I and my Father are one.” WHAT THE JEWS HEARD JESUS SAY;”I and my Father are one.” WHAT THE JEWS CLAIMED JESUS' WORDS MEANT;”..thou, being a man, makest thyself God.” WHAT JESUS SAID HIS WORD MEANT;”… I said, I am the Son of God?” PD is…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 05 2009,20:01)(WJ)There is another Greek word for with also…In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1A.T. Robertson gives us light on this clause.With God (prov ton qeon). Though existing eternally with God the Logos was in perfect fellowship with God. Prov with the…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 05 2009,04:59)Quote (Paladin @ July 04 2009,12:09)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 05 2009,02:55)Quote (Paladin @ July 04 2009,10:52)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 05 2009,02:45)Quote (thethinker @ July 04 2009,09:36)Paladin said:Quote Because you fail to comprehend how “one” can be applied tonouns having plural…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ July 06 2009,01:04)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 05 2009,05:34)Hi PDQuote (Paladin @ July 04 2009,13:15)Strong is following the theory, not the fact.So now you know more than Strong?     WJWJ,Paladin not only contradicts James Strong. He contradicts Moses himself. It was Moses who used “echad” in the unified sense of the t…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 05 2009,20:01)Hi PDQuote (Paladin @ July 04 2009,17:17)The word translated “WITH” in many cases in the New Testament, is This word shos us of a relationship between God and Christ, God and men, Christ and men, and other things, but the point of focus is what meta does NOT say. It does NOT say God is us, but God is…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 05 2009,20:27)Quote (Paladin @ July 04 2009,19:26)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 05 2009,05:34)Hi PDQuote (Paladin @ July 04 2009,13:15)Strong is following the theory, not the fact.So now you know more than Strong?     WJTHE lEXICOGRAPHERS ARE DRIVEN BY DOCTRINES AND CREEDS JUST LIKE THE TRANSLATORS ARE.I follow t…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 05 2009,05:34)Hi PDQuote (Paladin @ July 04 2009,13:15)Strong is following the theory, not the fact.So now you know more than Strong?     WJTHE lEXICOGRAPHERS ARE DRIVEN BY DOCTRINES AND CREEDS JUST LIKE THE TRANSLATORS ARE.I follow the scriptures, not commentaries about the scriptures.Give it a try. You might g…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 05 2009,06:51)Quote (thethinker @ July 04 2009,11:07)Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 04 2009,11:03)Hi TT, Silly stuff really. Have you got to look at Acts 10.38 for us yet?Nick,What does Acts 10:38 have to do with this discussion?thinkerHi TT, I knew you would eventually address it. Perhaps in the thread as it makes trinity an…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 05 2009,05:07)Quote (Paladin @ July 04 2009,12:19)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 05 2009,02:52)Quote (Paladin @ July 04 2009,09:52)Quote (thethinker @ July 04 2009,11:00)Quote (Paladin @ July 04 2009,07:31)Quote (thethinker @ July 04 2009,07:13)Paladin,Why haven't you answered the compelling evidnce against you in…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ July 05 2009,04:23)Paladin said:Quote If I give one example dealing with the text, you will simply jump to another text and say “Prove it for this one.” If I prove it for that one, you will jump again, and again, and again.If I give you all proof for every text, you will complain my posts are too long. If I prove my position,…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 05 2009,02:52)Quote (Paladin @ July 04 2009,09:52)Quote (thethinker @ July 04 2009,11:00)Quote (Paladin @ July 04 2009,07:31)Quote (thethinker @ July 04 2009,07:13)Paladin,Why haven't you answered the compelling evidnce against you in respect to plagiarism?thinkerHa! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Com…. ha! Ha!Compelling WHAT?…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 05 2009,02:55)Quote (Paladin @ July 04 2009,10:52)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 05 2009,02:45)Quote (thethinker @ July 04 2009,09:36)Paladin said:Quote Because you fail to comprehend how “one” can be applied tonouns having plural applications in some circumstances, does not mean that the meaning of “one” changes for…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 05 2009,02:45)Quote (thethinker @ July 04 2009,09:36)Paladin said:Quote Because you fail to comprehend how “one” can be applied tonouns having plural applications in some circumstances, does not mean that the meaning of “one” changes for all circumstances in which the sometimes plural noun application is used.The…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ July 04 2009,11:00)Quote (Paladin @ July 04 2009,07:31)Quote (thethinker @ July 04 2009,07:13)Paladin,Why haven't you answered the compelling evidnce against you in respect to plagiarism?thinkerHa! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Com…. ha! Ha!Compelling WHAT? Ha! Ha! Ha!WJ scans the world wiode web and finds another site out of thousands,…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ July 04 2009,12:03)Paladin said:Quote “Echad” is a word meaning singularly one. Claim is constantly made that it is a “plural one.” I say prove it. THAT has not been done.Paladin,WJ proved it yesterday. Genesis says that the man and his wife shall be ONE flesh. The word is “echad.” You're just not listening.thinkerNo thinker,…[Read more]