Paladin said:Quote Actually I think it is hard to get Christians to talk about ANYTHING with trinitarians, because it is an exercise in futility.(thinker) Then why are you here?I still believe in miracles.Paladin said:Quote Egw is first-person-singular personal pronoun “I” eimi is first-person-singular verb “am”(thinker) We have been over this…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ July 25 2009,02:18)Quote (Paladin @ July 24 2009,22:04)For THIS I do not faul the homosexual, I fault the Christians who fall for it. AND who fall because of it.In what way do christians 'fall' because of their concession of equal rights for gays?StuartGays already have equal rights with straights.”You have the right to remain…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ July 24 2009,05:45)Quote It is difficult to get the anti-trinitarian to talk about the exalted Jesus who is now King of kings and Lord of lords.Actually I think it is hard to get Christians to talk about ANYTHING with trinitarians, because it is an exercise in futility.Watch and see my demonstration.Gen 17:1God establishes his…[Read more]

(Cato) Quote Paladin,I think it is rather absurd to view homosexuality as a choice.  Having sex is a choice but your orientation is not.  I do not ever remember a time when I did not like women, even as small child of 4-5 well before it was overtly sexual. Fallacy! There is NOTHING sexual about a child's ability to love people of either gender p…[Read more]

Quote (Cato @ July 24 2009,06:28)1.  I believe that sexual orientation is similar to handedness; most people are born right handed, a minority are left handed and an even smaller number have no dominance or ambidextrous.  Most of us are heterosexual, a minority are homosexual and some are bi-sexual.  I believe in most cases this is not a choice bu…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ July 24 2009,12:52)Quote But why can't homosexuals start their own religion and ordain their own? Why must they force non gay religions to ordain them?thinkerI disagree thinker. I do not think homosexuals are forcing Christians to do ANYTHING those Christians are not willing to do to keep the peace. THAT is wrong.When the…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ July 24 2009,05:47)Quote (Gene @ July 24 2009,05:14)Thinker……….The whole Psalm is talking about (MAN) Jesus is SON OF MAN , Notice it says but we do not (YET) see everything under (MAN) but what do we (NOW) See ? we see a son of Man (JESUS) the FIRST born of (MANY BRETHREN) the first to attain to having all things under…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ July 24 2009,03:49)Paladin…..brother please don't get offended at my posts, I do agree with much of what you post, specially regarding Trinity and Preexistences. Just some things i have a different view point on. Please don't get discouraged by me brother. peace and love to you and…[Read more]

Quote (meerkat @ July 24 2009,08:38)Quote (Paladin @ July 24 2009,03:06)Quote (meerkat @ July 23 2009,22:56)Paladin/JodiReading your posts to each other on the sons of God that took daughters of men to wife and had children with them and I tend to agree with Jodi.If they were angels it would have said angels (malak)  – it was sons of God – When…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 23 2009,13:20)Hi PDQuote (Paladin @ July 22 2009,18:44)Like I have pointed out to you three times now, thinker, the word used in I Cor 15 is PASSIVE, not ACTIVE. If Christ subjects himself, it will be active. HE Submits.If God subjects him, it will be PASSIVE on Christ's part, ACTIVE on God's part. The word-form is…[Read more]

Quote (meerkat @ July 23 2009,22:56)Paladin/JodiReading your posts to each other on the sons of God that took daughters of men to wife and had children with them and I tend to agree with Jodi.If they were angels it would have said angels (malak)  – it was sons of God – When you read the geneology of Jesus, Adam is the son of God, Paladin,Tartarus…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ July 23 2009,03:50)Paladin…….Jesus said the (words) i speak unto you (ARE) SPIRIT and LIFE. If we look very closely at what he said it clarifies much. First it is reasonable and logical when looked at correctly.  What is a (Word) is it not the expression of ones intellect, everything that GOD communicates to us in general is…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ July 23 2009,17:06)(Stu)Quote I am discussing the points raised in the OP. If you were not addressing this from your Judeo-christian viewpoint then I expect that you would not be writing such homophobic nonsense in the first place, as I explained to you.(P) O.K. Let's begin with the position expressed in the OP and see where the…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ July 23 2009,04:54)Paladin said:Quote He will turn it all back to the Father when the last enemy is destroyed. Then he himself will “Be subjected” to the Father.(thinker) Until the Son voluntarily hands all back to the Father you are His and His alone! The Son owns you by inheritance. You are His!(P) All you lack is scripture…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ July 22 2009,10:35)If you want to discuss the points raised in the OP, I will continue dialogue with you. If you simply want to express your hatred and fear of Christianity, not interested.

Quote (thethinker @ July 22 2009,10:34)Paladin said:Quote What YOU fail to realize is, if someone gives you everything, that does make you that someone who gave you all things.What you fail to realize is that if someone gives you something IT IS YOURS. You belong to Christ and He may do with you as He wills. I never said that the Son is the…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ July 22 2009,03:20)So what? Take it in historical perspective, not just a bunch of disjointed sound bites.Quote After Jesus was exalted all that was the Father's became His as well. This included doctrine specifically.What YOU fail to realize is, if someone gives you everything, that does make you that someone who gave you all…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ July 22 2009,04:21)Paladin ……….the issue is (BORN) of the (HOLY) SPIRIT, i was addressing.  Spirit is simply Intellect it is NOT a being of any kind it is purely Knowledge and exists in a state of good and evil, clean and unclean spirits (intellects)  Within a body form. When an unclean spirit (intellect) leaves a man (IT) g…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ July 22 2009,02:45)Quote (Paladin @ July 21 2009,23:58)Quote (thethinker @ July 21 2009,10:59)Paladin said:Quote God built all things, but Jesus built a house.Heb 3:4 For every house is builded by some man; but he that built all things is God.Why is that so hard for you to comprehend?Try a remedial course in TRUTH.The “house”…[Read more]

(Stu)Quote My dictionary defines a homophobia as a fear or hatred of homosexuals.If it is not fear, then why do christians go on about it so much?  If you are against homosexuality then remember it is not compulsory!  The evidence of fear is in the obsession with others who are gay.  Is fear not the only credible motive for persecuting ot…[Read more]