Quote (bodhitharta @ July 30 2009,07:44)WJ, Thinker, Nick and whoever elseIf you reject the Pope like I know some of you do, especially the ones mentioned above you reject the teachings of Paul as he instituted the office of Head Bishop i.e. Pope.The Pope represents the triumph of Christ over his enemies as The Vatican is clear evidence of.So…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ July 30 2009,03:53)Quote (Paladin @ July 30 2009,00:00)Quote (thethinker @ July 29 2009,10:59)Quote (TimothyVI @ July 29 2009,05:39)Quote (thethinker @ July 27 2009,19:24)Homosexuals prey on little boys in Italy.thinkerPriests prey on little boys the world over.What was your point?TimApparently you have not been following the…[Read more]

Quote (pelakeya @ July 22 2009,01:45)Was Jesus an angel before coming to earth as a man?If he was then Mat 1:20 is wrong.Consider:We are talking about the begetting of a spiritual entity here.”for that which is gennao in her is of the Holy Ghost.” “That which is gennao of the flesh is flesh; and that which is gennao of the Spirit is spirit.”…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ July 27 2009,18:48)(Stu)Quote I accept your tacet concession that I am right then. (P)you cannot “accept” what is not offered. I conceded no such tacet understanding.(Stu)Quote God is an assertion on your part that is not necessitated by any evidence or anecdote.(P)I asserted nothing about God. I used his own words specifically to…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ July 29 2009,10:59)Quote (TimothyVI @ July 29 2009,05:39)Quote (thethinker @ July 27 2009,19:24)Homosexuals prey on little boys in Italy.thinkerPriests prey on little boys the world over.What was your point?TimApparently you have not been following the thread. Stu made the outrageous statement that homosexuality has no victims…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 29 2009,07:33)(WJ)Quote (Paladin @ July 28 2009,15:18)When Jesus said “I am from above,” or, “I am come down out of heaven,” he was not speaking of his origin, but the authority behind it.All men come from Eden, but Jesus did not come from the same process as all men, what Jesus is came from heaven.”The baptism of…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ July 27 2009,10:42)Paladin said:Quote Yah, well, I left out Gen 1:1 and Isaiah 66:13 too, because I don't need them for the theme of my post. I noticed YOU left out my entire thread on “fulfilling the logos of God.”Was that deliberate, or just fear?(See, I know how to ask leading nonsense questions too)Why would you cite Paul…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ July 27 2009,02:52)(Stu)Quote The experience you have is meaningless as evidence, just as is mine. That is not to discredit an eyewitness account, but I take it you have not actually physically seen any gods.(P) I have seen the result of God having expressed himself. I read it constantly.(Stu)Quote Evidence is that which stands on…[Read more]

Quote (Everlasting father Jesus @ July 27 2009,16:00)Jesus is lord and our personal saviour and I know this and believe because God is Jesus our Father and he loves us and died so that we can have eternal life.Jesus is our BROTHER, not our father. “Firstborn among many brethren.”The reason Messiah was to be given a name “everlasting father” is…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ July 27 2009,19:29)Quote (Everlasting father Jesus @ July 27 2009,16:00)Jesus is lord and our personal saviour and I know this and believe because God is Jesus our Father and he loves us and died so that we can have eternal life.Jesus is our Lord and Savior. He is God in the flesh. But He is NOT the Father. This is just another…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ July 27 2009,06:05)Quote (Paladin @ July 26 2009,11:42)Quote (thethinker @ July 25 2009,11:37)Paladin said:Quote Right, so Jesus is also a first-person-singular being. What's your point? Peter said the same thing, as also did Paul and James, and I imagine every human since Adam. They all said “I am” about SOMETHING.Don't be…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ July 27 2009,07:07)Quote (Paladin @ July 27 2009,03:12)Quote (Stu @ July 27 2009,02:52)The experience you have is meaningless as evidence, just as is mine.  That is not to discredit an eyewitness account, but I take it you have not actually physically seen any gods.Evidence is that which stands on its own terms.  Anyone else should b…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ July 27 2009,02:52)The experience you have is meaningless as evidence, just as is mine.  That is not to discredit an eyewitness account, but I take it you have not actually physically seen any gods.Evidence is that which stands on its own terms.  Anyone else should be able to come to the same conclusion as you if the evidence is u…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ July 27 2009,02:52)The experience you have is meaningless as evidence, just as is mine.  That is not to discredit an eyewitness account, but I take it you have not actually physically seen any gods.Evidence is that which stands on its own terms.  Anyone else should be able to come to the same conclusion as you if the evidence is u…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ July 26 2009,21:45)bodhitharta said:Quote Of course thinker believes that everything Jesus said was part of the old covenant and we should not be following Christ's teachings.I make no apologies for what I believe. Explain Hebrews 6:1-6. It clearly says that we should LEAVE the elementary doctrines of Christ and move on to…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ July 25 2009,11:37)Paladin said:Quote Right, so Jesus is also a first-person-singular being. What's your point? Peter said the same thing, as also did Paul and James, and I imagine every human since Adam. They all said “I am” about SOMETHING.Don't be coy. Jesus clearly said that He pre-existed Abraham “Before Abraham was I…[Read more]

Quote (Cato @ July 26 2009,10:37)Pedophiles are found in both homo and hetero people and don't involve consenting relations between adults so they are superfluous to this discussion. As far as whether homosexual relations are natural well it appears so for they appear in both human and animal kingdoms and studies have shown their percentages…[Read more]

Quote (Cato @ July 26 2009,10:37)(Cato)Quote Pedophiles are found in both homo and hetero people and don't involve consenting relations between adults so they are superfluous to this discussion. As far as whether homosexual relations are natural well it appears so for they appear in both human and animal kingdoms and studies have shown their…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ July 25 2009,19:14)Quote (datguy @ July 25 2009,12:22)HI TT, is it that you think Lord means God? I hope that is not the case. Women of the bible commonly refer to men as their Lord. Christ being a son over his own house was made Lord and Christ by God. Acts 2:36..Heb 3:6dg,The term “Lord” in reference to Christ means “God.”…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ July 25 2009,11:44)(Paladin)Quote Gays already have equal rights with straights.”You have the right to remain silent.you do not have to testify against yourself.If you cannot afford an attorney the court will appoint one.”It is not “equal rights” you want, it is “acceptance” of a practice God declared to be “abomination.”As for your p…[Read more]