Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 24 2009,09:44)Hi P, Why did you expect the world and it's organisations to obey God?The god of this world controls them.Let the dead bury the dead.Actually, I still carry around in my head and heart, the notion some of God's churches may yet repent of stupidity.

Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 18 2009,11:22)Quote (Paladin @ Aug. 18 2009,10:51)Quote (Stu @ Aug. 18 2009,07:11)Not that I am an apologist for Wikipedia, but it does say “…is the last canonical book of the New Testament, which is true.StuartI am referencing how most Christians understand that to mean. They look at it as “the last New Testament book…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Aug. 18 2009,07:04)(P)Quote Col 2:8 “Beware lest any man make a captive of you through PHILOSOPHY and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.” Nah! Don't think so. (Stu) OK. Perhaps you might avoid commenting on the nature of evidence then, given your self-imposed ignorance.If…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Aug. 18 2009,07:11)Not that I am an apologist for Wikipedia, but it does say “…is the last canonical book of the New Testament, which is true.StuartI am referencing how most Christians understand that to mean. They look at it as “the last New Testament book in the canon.”It is not.

Quote (Stu @ Aug. 18 2009,01:54)(Stu)Quote Tacitus, writing his independent reference was almost certainly inventing his own 'gospel' based on what christians told him. He got the detail about Pontius Pilate's official title wrong and there were no records to consult due to fires in public buildings, so he was not basing his account on anything…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Aug. 16 2009,12:23)Review your optionsStuartNone of the above.1ST: The author of your article referenced, is failing to aknowledge the simple fact that John did use the word “arnion” to describe Jesus' followers, in his gospel. So it make your author's argument moot, that there were two authors of the gospel and revelation.He says…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Aug. 16 2009,18:03)Quote (Stu @ Aug. 02 2009,10:37) Tacitus, writing his independent reference was almost certainly inventing his own 'gospel' based on what christians told him. He got the detail about Pontius Pilate's official title wrong and there were no records to consult due to fires in public buildings, so he was not basing…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Aug. 15 2009,08:32)Paladin wrote:Quote What history? What you have presented is certainly not history. It is a corrupted account of what really happened.To correct your ignorance would require a much longer post than I care to entertain here and now.(WIT)Corrupted? Ignorant? I quoted and paraphrased scripture. Surely you can…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Aug. 15 2009,07:59)Paladin wrote:Quote What history? What you have presented is certainly not history. It is a corrupted account of what really happened.To correct your ignorance would require a much longer post than I care to entertain here and now.Corrupted?  Ignorant?  I quoted and paraphrased scripture.  Surely you can de…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Aug. 12 2009,13:45)Quote (Paladin @ Aug. 12 2009,05:29)Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Aug. 11 2009,14:21)Paladin,I guess this is a case of not defining terms.  Let me illustrate it this way.If I tell my three year old not to eat any cookies before dinner, there is a clear reason behind it.  I don't want him to fill up on junk, or o…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 11 2009,16:08)(Kejonn)Quote (Paladin @ Aug. 10 2009,12:07)If you drive up to a stop sign in traffic, do you say “You'll have to do better than that, explain yourself?” Or do you stop?I was informing, not educating. You can go online for your education, you have already been informed.(Kejonn) IOW, another assertion that you…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Aug. 11 2009,14:21)Paladin,I guess this is a case of not defining terms.  Let me illustrate it this way.If I tell my three year old not to eat any cookies before dinner, there is a clear reason behind it.  I don't want him to fill up on junk, or overload on sugar.  But, if, when he gets his dinner, I tell him not to eat any of…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Aug. 11 2009,06:19)Again, so what is wrong with my statement:Quote In other words, it was an arbitrary rule that had no real purpose other than as a stumbling block for God's “chosen people”. I have told you twice now, it is not a stumbling block. It is a law placed to see if the people are serious about obeying it.There are…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Aug. 11 2009,02:34)Quote Paladin, Hostile? I think that you are misreading my frustration. In my opening post I wrote:Quote Regardless of how bad a natural reading of a particular passage may appear, Christians seem to find some way to ignore it, (e.g. “That's just Old Testament stuff!“), or reason it away.In your last post,…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Aug. 11 2009,02:20)Paladin wrote:Quote If you have ever been in school, or high school, or college, did your teachers give you tests to let you see what you needed more help in to learn? Or did they just put  “stumbling blocks” in your way to hold you back and embarrass you?Yes, my teachers typically asked me questions that…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 11 2009,04:07)Quote (Paladin @ Aug. 10 2009,08:40)Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 11 2009,00:55)Quote (Paladin @ Aug. 10 2009,07:13)But then those “Pagans” would never have developed the laws that made them the envy of the ancient world.Is this statement supported outside of the bible?Any good history of ancient societies.You'll have to…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Aug. 10 2009,13:05)Paladin,You wrote:Quote She is not instructed to remain siilent as to teaching her husband, children, and strangers; she is instructed to keep silent in the church.What part of “And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence” do you not understand?  Note that the…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 11 2009,00:55)Quote (Paladin @ Aug. 10 2009,07:13)But then those “Pagans” would never have developed the laws that made them the envy of the ancient world.Is this statement supported outside of the bible?Any good history of ancient societies.

Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 01 2009,19:33)Paladin,Please answer my last post or concede by default.thinkerSorry, I quit reading the thread when you quit reading it.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 01 2009,14:05)Hi P, So for you the Messiah has yet to come?Scripture tells us CHRIST means MESSIAH. Jesus has come and said he is the Christ.Jersus came the first time to save mankind, will return in judgment.