Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 19 2011,01:05)PaladinQuote As for Jesus “coming down from heaven,” it is the same way the baptism of John was “from heaven.” It was by the authority of God in heaven.simple question here ;why is that John the Baptist ad a man for father and Christ was given trough Gods intervention ,so no man intervention only women…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 18 2011,20:56)Hi Paladin,You don't believe prophetic statements become historical events?God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgOf course they do Ed. That was not my statement. I said many believe what is prophecy, is already historic event, when in fact, scripturally, it still had to be fulfilled. Like for…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 18 2011,12:03)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 17 2011,15:17)If you are ready to debate the old testament issues I raised way back in page 96 post #5 I will then consider debating new testament issues depending on how you react to the first debate.I am willing for you to post the OT scriptures or teachings ONE AT A TIME that you…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 18 2011,11:27)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 17 2011,17:32) Quote (mikeboll @ 64)Very good Kerwin.  Now, what scripture is it that forbids Jesus from being the first of these sons of God? Quote Acts 13 King James Version (KJV)22And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave their…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 18 2011,11:27)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 18 2011,05:49)Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 18 2011,10:40)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 17 2011,01:12)John 1:1 does not say anything about “in the beginning was pre-existant Jesus, pirit.and pre-existant Jesus was with God, and pre-existant Jesus was God;” and John 1:14 does not say “Pre-existant Jesus became…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 18 2011,11:01)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 18 2011,10:49)Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 18 2011,10:40)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 17 2011,01:12)John 1:1 does not say anything about “in the beginning was pre-existant Jesus, and pre-existant Jesus was with God, and pre-existant Jesus was God;” and John 1:14 does not say “Pre-existant Jesus became flesh…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 18 2011,10:43)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 18 2011,03:33)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 17 2011,03:14)Of course John 1:1 and 14 qualifiy as a hard to understand verses.  Not only do those verses seem very straightforward to me, but the Bible also contains many other verses that support the meaning of those two.Hi Mike,Yes, there are many…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 18 2011,03:26)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 17 2011,01:12)Tell me Mike, how can the logos of God increase? “And the logos of God increased; and the number of the disciples multiplied in Jerusalem greatly; and a great company of the priests were obedient to the faith.” The problem you have comes from wanting every mention of…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 18 2011,10:59)Paladin,Quote The fact that a verse is “hard of understanding” shows only that the Holy Spirit intended for it to. That is his tool for separating the serious student from the doctrinaire. I assume you mean it separates those that are truly led by their hunger and thirst for righteousness from those that are led…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 18 2011,10:40)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 17 2011,01:12)John 1:1 does not say anything about “in the beginning was pre-existant Jesus, and pre-existant Jesus was with God, and pre-existant Jesus was God;” and John 1:14 does not say “Pre-existant Jesus became flesh and dwelt among us.”Hi Paladin,Your John 1:1 is more accurate than the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 18 2011,03:26)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 17 2011,01:12)Tell me Mike, how can the logos of God increase? “And the logos of God increased; and the number of the disciples multiplied in Jerusalem greatly; and a great company of the priests were obedient to the faith.” The problem you have comes from wanting every mention of…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 17 2011,20:14)Paladin,Quote As for you telling me I cannot use certain scriptures in response to your questions because you have shown the “truth” of that scripture, I can only remind you that you can no longer use John 1:1,14 to prove the logos is Jesus Christ. Let's see how long that effects your doctrine of pre-existant…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 17 2011,13:20)Paladin, You are really a piece of work.    You reposted an old post of yours where you mentioned Heb 11:3………….SO WHAT?  Did that old post of yours say that since the “word of God” in that verse was “rhema”, your whole “secret meaning of logos” plan didn't work?  Because if you DIDN'T say that, the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 17 2011,07:40)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 16 2011,03:02)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 16 2011,09:55)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 15 2011,01:00)So no, Mike, I do not say “I have God's grace and my opponents don't.Good, Paladin.  I didn't really think that's what you meant to say.That's not only not what I meant to say – That's not what I…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 17 2011,08:42)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 16 2011,04:20)Quote 1.  John 3:13No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.What does it mean that he ascended except that he first DESCENDED?  Where did Jesus ascend TO?  That is also where he descended FROM.Well that certainly explains Paul…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 17 2011,07:40)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 16 2011,03:02)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 16 2011,09:55)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 15 2011,01:00)So no, Mike, I do not say “I have God's grace and my opponents don't.Good, Paladin.  I didn't really think that's what you meant to say.That's not only not what I meant to say – That's not what I…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 16 2011,09:55)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 15 2011,01:00)So no, Mike, I do not say “I have God's grace and my opponents don't.Good, Paladin.  I didn't really think that's what you meant to say.Have you given any thought to my last post to you?  Have you considered that the scriptures show “lowest parts of the earth” to just m…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 16 2011,09:55)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 15 2011,01:00)So no, Mike, I do not say “I have God's grace and my opponents don't.Good, Paladin.  I didn't really think that's what you meant to say.Have you given any thought to my last post to you?  Have you considered that the scriptures show “lowest parts of the earth” to just m…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 15 2011,11:40)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 14 2011,16:36)I believe that except for the grace of God and the blood of Christ I differ not one whit from my opponents.As in, you have the grace of God and your opponents don't?  I don't really think that's what you meant, Paladin.  I just took this opportunity to show everyone how i…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 15 2011,08:05)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 15 2011,14:44)Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 15 2011,06:25)edjthe trinitarian do not argue with it, they just declare all other views as heretic ,or some go even further declaring Jesus God himselfso that now we have father and son being the same ,Paladin I think is one of those ,PierreAre you…[Read more]