Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 15 2011,09:16)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 13 2011,12:44)Im just repeating what you just stated. You said “Ha logos” and “theos” are not interchangable.  MY question is why would John use non-interchangable terms to describe the beginning?DennisonThis is a very fair and good question. John could have used any other…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 16 2011,09:40)Quote (Paladin @ Mar. 16 2011,09:30)Quote 5) ONLY through Mary's linage! (Luke 3:23-31)   …Son of Man! This Post reminds me of the Posts that Terraricca(Pierre) makes!You have NOT explained why you posted those Scriptures?Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH! יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  h…[Read more]

Quote (theodorej @ Mar. 15 2011,12:26)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 15 2011,11:39)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 15 2011,00:16)Quote (Paladin @ Mar. 14 2011,12:44)All that nonsense only serves to demonstrate your lack of bible knowledge, my friend, and it does not help your argument at all.We know that the doctrine you just quoted claims sin comes…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 14 2011,10:18)Quote (Paladin @ Mar. 14 2011,14:33)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 14 2011,00:18)Hi Paladin,     Here is how the dilemma is solved!Only if we look at this as “seed”(and NOT D.N.A.),is Jesus absent from Adam, because the “HolySpirit” is Jesus' Father, not Adam. (Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35)The seed lineage would t…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 15 2011,11:39)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 15 2011,00:16)Quote (Paladin @ Mar. 14 2011,12:44)All that nonsense only serves to demonstrate your lack of bible knowledge, my friend, and it does not help your argument at all.We know that the doctrine you just quoted claims sin comes down through Adam, and not the woman.…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 15 2011,08:03)Quote (Paladin @ Mar. 12 2011,06:18)Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 12 2011,06:13)Paladin said:Quote All christians are in form God, as God lives in us and influences the changes in our lives.Jesus said, “You have not seen His form” (John 5:37). If all christians are in God form, then we have seen His…[Read more]

(M)Quote I agree with Paladin that to be “begotten” means that Jesus did have a beginning.  I don't agree with him that his beginning was in the seed of Adam.  I believe his beginning was before all the ages, as taught in Micah 5:2.Hello Mike; Perhaps it is simply that I have failed to properly explain the issue. Perhaps not. I will try a…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 14 2011,04:44)PART – V(SF) So what doesnt make sense to me is why do you ignore clear evidence that Jesus pre-existed and took a role as a creator.I will try again to explain it. You cannot (despite your best efforts) begin at the back of the book and correct the front of the book. That is what you are doing when you…[Read more]

PART IV(P)Quote Correct! It's called the new creation, by which “all things are made new in Christ Jesus.”(SF) Lol.  Your adding to scripture bro. what you said, is “non-interchangable” because its someting that is not said in scripture. Did you skip the part that says “WHO CREATED ALL THINGS”What do you think that Phrase means?Is ALL not…[Read more]

PART – III(SF)Quote So is Jesus not with God and is not God?Correct!(SF)Quote You wrote a bunch of things backwards and made claims that certains phrases cannot be used interchangably. Why can Love not be God?Why cant the word NOt be God?Why don't you do a little research online and get back to the issue after you learn the terminology? I was not…[Read more]

Part II(P)Quote 2. “It is dealing with the logos, which was both God and with God. Jesus was not.”(SF) And who told you that? Is God a spider? No? Who told you that? You see SF, we go by what scripture says, not by the silence thereof. The scripture says “In the beginning was the logos and the logos was with God, and the logos was God.”But you…[Read more]

(SF)Quote 2. Your commiting this one fallacy over and over again.  You cannot just state things as if they are a facts without warrents.  Speculations is not proof. If by “warrents” you mean scripture references, I will try to remember that. Now, SF, please explain the following remarks:You quoted my statement, and asked a question: –Quote 1. “…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 14 2011,15:36)Only if you get ahead of the story and don't begin at the beginning. “So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.” Here, God tells us “man” is a “them” not just a “Him.”Quote No, here we learn that the word “adam” is used to identify both the…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 16 2011,09:28)Quote Hi Paladin, You address Luke 20:41-44 and I will answer your question; deal?Nope! I sill answwer your question, but since you do not understand what I am saying, it matters not whether you respond to my question or not.Quote Luke 20:41-44 And he said unto them, How say they that Christ is David's…[Read more]

Quote 5) ONLY through Mary's linage! (Luke 3:23-31)   …Son of Man! “Only through Mary's lineage?”You would test me on the generations in Jesus' lineage?I CHRON 3:10-16 10 And Solomon's son was Rehoboam, Abia his son, Asa his son, Jehoshaphat his son, 11 Joram his son, Ahaziah his son, Joash his son, 12 Amaziah his son, Azariah his son, Jotham…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 14 2011,02:36)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 14 2011,02:21)Paladin………You have it right brother, but MYSTERY RELIGION has blinded their eyes and they can't understand this, they have bought into the lie that false “Christianity” has created of a “spirit body” by misunderstanding the words 'Spiritual Bodies”,  the simple truth…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 14 2011,02:29)Quote Hi Paladin,This does NOT sufficiently answer the question I asked?David was long dead long before Jesus was born.Q. Who was Jesus' Father? …try again!Nope! It is not a “trial and error” contest I am engaged in here.No need for me to “try again” just to satisfy your doctrinal dogmatics.How can God give…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 14 2011,03:41)Quote I understand it to be a metaphoric and poetic way of speaking.  In fact, many translations word it in such a way to emphasize the poetic nature more than the KJV which you quoted:If Levi paid tithes to Melchisedec because he was in the loins of his father Abraham when Abraham paid tithes to…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 14 2011,02:48)Quote (Paladin @ Mar. 14 2011,02:15)(1) Do you believe Jesus is the seed of the woman of Gen 3:15? (2) Do you believe women have seed? I do. (3)When a man mixes his seed with a woman's seed, a child is produced. (4) God produces it according to the laws He established in Eden. (5) Scripture says David is his…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 14 2011,00:18)Hi Paladin,     Here is how the dilemma is solved!Only if we look at this as “seed”(and NOT D.N.A.),is Jesus absent from Adam, because the “HolySpirit” is Jesus' Father, not Adam. (Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35)The seed lineage would then NOT GO BACK all the way to Adam; Jesus would be the only progeny called t…[Read more]