Quote (Wispring @ Mar. 19 2011,09:21)To Paladin,   Your elucidation of the words “in the beginning” has really cleared up alot things for me. The bible as a cohesive whole is starting to make much more rational sense to me now. Thank you. I trusted the bible for the most part in blind faith(excepting the words of Jesus Christ because my soul knew…[Read more]

Hello Tim;It is good to see others are thinking. All who post on the board are thinkers, who are trying to explain not what they think, so much as why they think it. I like that.ThanksAs to your question:Quote Is it possible that each time Jesus referred to “the world” he was referring to the “world order of that time” or the “religious world…[Read more]

(P)Quote I think Jesus had glory in prospect as prophecy.(Mike) Does what you think fit the scripture?  Jesus asks to be glorified with the glory he had before the world.First of all, your understanding means that Jesus was asking for the glory of a “prophetic prospect”.  Was he saying he wanted to go back to being a DNA who is foreordained for s…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 18 2011,05:39)Quote He is one of the few posters to reveal the meanings of the words in the Hebrew and Greek texts.Hi WispringActually most of us here do.Espeacialy Myself, Mike, WJ, KJ, David, Francis, and many others. We had a WHOLE debate and several threads based on hebrews and greek terms. Espeacially “Elohim”…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 18 2011,14:02)Quote (Paladin @ Mar. 17 2011,12:29)That's o.k. for you to say that Mike as long as you remember, the Devil thinks like you do, so it really has no power does it? (Remember, “Thou believest God is one, the devils believe, and tremble”)Paladin,I'm NOT a Trinitarian, remember?Sure, as long as you remember I am…[Read more]

(SF)Quote Im assuming (breaking my own rule) in my second statement that you are reffereing to Jesus, (though i dont believe him to be solely a man) Which is why i questioned it in my first. I also do not believe Jesus is “just a man;” neither do I believe he is “God equal with God.”Since he was begotten of the Holy spirit and “that which is…[Read more]

PART – IIIQuote Paladin I like your presentation well done ,but my knowledge of scriptures tell me that – “He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation” “Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 17 2011,15:08)PART – IIQuote Paladin – also about Christ;1Co 15:47 The first man was of the dust of the earth, the second man from heavenso your story does not say that Christ came from above ,why??PierreThree things under consideration here, my friend.1st) Paul establishes for all time, the fact that Adam predates Jesus…[Read more]

PART – IQuote Paladin – your presentation does not include a major event, the flood, and the reason for it.When God created heaven and earth, he made both to be inhabited, but by very different types of creatures. One creature, the first he created, were called “Elohim,” and were spirits, clothed in a garment called “oikeeteerion.”If you picture…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 17 2011,15:08)Paladin I like your presentation well done ,but my knowledge of scriptures tell me that God is the same and your presentation does not include a major event the floodand the reason for it.also about Christ;1Co 15:47 The first man was of the dust of the earth, the second man from heavenCol 1:15 He is the image…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 17 2011,14:05)Quote (Paladin @ Mar. 16 2011,08:13)God promised Jesus glory, before the world was created;Where did you read that?  What I have read has Jesus asking his God to glorify him with the glory “I HAD ALONGSIDE YOU BEFORE THE WORLD EXISTED”.o.k. That's a fair question. It is actually not a vers I read, so much as…[Read more]

Quote (Wispring @ Mar. 17 2011,11:08)Hi Paladin,   The clarity with which you present the text of scripture, the meaning of the words in Greek and English and the grammatical rules of these languages shows to me that your truly are a bible scholar. I for one appreciate very much what you are doing here. To be honest I read your posts and alot of…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 17 2011,04:30)Quote (Paladin @ Mar. 17 2011,01:13)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 14 2011,06:30)(M)Quote I agree with Paladin that to be “begotten” means that Jesus did have a beginning.  I don't agree with him that his beginning was in the seed of Adam.  I believe his beginning was before all the ages, as taught in Micah 5:2.Hello M…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 16 2011,15:15)Because David knew that God had promised him that of his loins one would come that would be his Lord, as resurrected Christ.(Mike) And the Pharisees also thought as you do, Paladin.That's o.k. for you to say that Mike as long as you remember, the Devil thinks like you do, so it really has no power does it?…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 18 2011,03:42)Quote (Paladin @ Mar. 17 2011,21:32)“~Snip~” for brevityQuote (Wispring @ Mar. 16 2011,11:21)“~Snip~” for brevityPaladin,Thats very good advice.And very wise of you. That is alot of pressure. Maybe i have pre-judged you based on misunderstandings, which is why i ask so many questions so that we can come…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Mar. 15 2011,17:12)You are reading what took place in the garden, not out in the world.”So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.” (Mike) So your understanding of this is that Adam and Eve were one being and were called “HIM”?  Gen 1:27 “So God created man in his own…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 16 2011,12:25)Paladin, Are you going to respond to my post?Just askinHey SF. If you only posted one post, I responded. If you posted more than one, which one are you asking about?I have my plate full, but am open to guidance.

Quote (Wispring @ Mar. 16 2011,11:21)To all and especially Paladin,   I came to this thread to learn from Paladin. I have no desire engage in any scriptural-based debate in this thread and will steadfastly refuse to do so from here on out. I hope I am making my mind and intentions perfectly clear on this point. Thank you and may God bless you and…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 16 2011,09:47)Quote (Paladin @ Mar. 16 2011,09:41)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 16 2011,09:28)Quote Hi Paladin,        You address Luke 20:41-44 and I will answer your question; deal?Nope! I will answer your question, but since you do not understand what I am saying, it matters not whether you respond to my question or not.Quote Luke 20:…[Read more]

Quote (Wispring @ Mar. 15 2011,14:06) Hi everyone,I do not believe God is of the male gender because he createdthem both man and women in his image. I use the male term to refer to God in spoken and written communication because it is easier and traditional.Hello W; The reasons God is considered “He” are several. 1) The male pronoun “He” was not…[Read more]