Quote (Wispring @ Mar. 26 2011,21:48)Hi Paladin,I was reading my NIV.Quote John 6:63 (New International Version, ©2011)63 The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you—they are full of the Spirit and life. you would be more familiar with:John 6:63 (King James Version) 63It is the spirit that quickeneth; the fl…[Read more]

Quote (Wispring @ Mar. 26 2011,10:28)Hi Paladin,Quote I am not familiar with the issues you raised such as “anointing at Jesus' birth.”Right. The moment of birth is a hotly debated issue by humanity.I am not denying it, I am saying I am not familiar with any “anointing” at that moment. Quote I should have said “The moment of conception” or “The…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Mar. 26 2011,03:58)To all who claim to be saints, greetings. Is there some reason we cannot see the image of God in each other?Do you know of a verse that says “if your brother disagrees with you over doctrine, he begins to fade as God's image?”Dear brethren and sisters – if we cannot discuss eternal things, without rancor and heat,…[Read more]

To all who claim to be saints, greetings. Is there some reason we cannot see the image of God in each other?Do you know of a verse that says “if your brother disagrees with you over doctrine, he begins to fade as God's image?”Dear brethren and sisters – if we cannot discuss eternal things, without rancor and heat, why are we on the board? Have we…[Read more]

(P)Quote 1) God placed his word above his name for a reason. “…thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.”(M) We've already discussed this Paladin.  There is nothing above the Name of YHWH.  Read the LXX translation of this Psalm and tell me what it says.  Because apparently you didn't believe me when I showed you.Psa138:2 “I will wo…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Mar. 24 2011,01:08)Quote (Paladin @ Mar. 23 2011,21:06)Actually, dear sister, there are much more than forty verses that are used to prove that Jesus pre-existed his existence, but that doesn't mean that is what they teach. it simply means that is what they are used for.(Irene)Quote There are over 40 scriptures that show us that…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 23 2011,16:23)Quote (Wispring @ Mar. 23 2011,23:06)Hi everyone,   Paladin's whole purpose to making this thread in my view was to show that Gods' plans cannot be negated. He presented that the concept of Christos or annointing of the Holy Spirit via the word or logos of God to Jesus and also available to us was presented…[Read more]

Quote (Wispring @ Mar. 23 2011,23:19)Hi Paladin,   Could you talk about the anointing of Jesus by the Holy Spirit at birth, from John, then perhaps again at the transfiguration? Where these levels of anointing or stages of the annointing process or something else. I cannot understand the need for 3 anointings. Maybe that is just how things went…[Read more]

Quote (Wispring @ Mar. 24 2011,19:45)Hi Paladin,   Am I understanding you properly when I say that you believe Jesus Christ was a man much like you and me who was blessed with the Holy Spirit from God to unlimited degree to fulfill prophesy and bring the world to a new earth and new heaven or new level of spiritual realization or new age? That…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Mar. 24 2011,01:08)Quote (Paladin @ Mar. 23 2011,21:06)Actually, dear sister, there are much more than forty verses that are used to prove that Jesus pre-existed his existence, but that doesn't mean that is what they teach. it simply means that is what they are used for.(Irene)Quote There are over 40 scriptures that show us that…[Read more]

Actually, dear sister, there are much more than forty verses that are used to prove that Jesus pre-existed his existence, but that doesn't mean that is what they teach. it simply means that is what they are used for.(Irene)Quote There are over 40 scriptures that show us that Jesus existed way before His birth on earth.Peace and Love Irene

Hello dear sister, who has quit several times, and been resurrected, welcome back. And I mean it sincerely. (Irene) Quote The prophecy of Jesus has nothing to do with that Jesus preexisted His birth on earth.  Incarnation means that He came in the flesh.The issue does not revolve around a word that is not even found in scripture my dear sister,…[Read more]

mikeQuote (Paladin @ Mar. 20 2011,16:36)He couldn't have been the logos of God because that was a new name in 69 a.d. according to John's Apokalypse.(Mike)11 I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war. 12 His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his…[Read more]

Quote (Wispring @ Mar. 22 2011,07:12)Hi Paladin,   I have read this entire thread 2 times and am SLOWLY reading it a third time. Please tell me if I am understanding what you are presenting correctly. In summation, that via the spirit of prophesy Jesus Christ was incarnated in Eve first, then personified in Abraham, then manifested via Mary. The…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 21 2011,02:57)Paladin……….Many here do not believe in the Trinity, but they believe in the preexistence of Jesus before his berth on earth, they thin he was a demigod or Super Angel or some kind of Being, i don't think i have them ever elaborate on what kind of Being he was or any scriptures showing any activity of…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Mar. 21 2011,01:23)Paladin!   The trinity is three persons in one.  A Mystery according to the Catholic Church.  Jesus is not Almighty God, by Jesus own words He said inJhn 14:28   Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Fat…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Mar. 20 2011,12:15)Quote (Paladin @ Mar. 20 2011,10:11)Quote (Paladin @ Feb. 25 2011,00:29)If I understand this “Incarnation” trinity theory, you are telling me that Jesus preexisted with the Father in eternity, then “incarnated” by the Holy spirit in the womb of Mary.Scripture tells a far different story. At least three times in…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Mar. 19 2011,12:11)I could pray the same type of prayer Jesus prayed in John 17:5 “And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.”(Mike) No, you actually couldn't pray that unless you are CONSCIOUSLY aware of some glory that you held IN GOD'S PRESENCE before the…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Feb. 25 2011,00:29)If I understand this “Incarnation” trinity theory, you are telling me that Jesus preexisted with the Father in eternity, then “incarnated” by the Holy spirit in the womb of Mary.Scripture tells a far different story. At least three times in three different accounts, we are told that Jesus is the seed of Adam or…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Mar. 19 2011,09:54)Paladin!  I see you are interpreting Scriptures to your view.  So when Jesus said the He came from Heaven to do the will of His Father it does not say so?  And when Scriptures say that He was the firstborn of all creation, it is not so?  Col 1:14   In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forg…[Read more]