Paladin replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 31 2011,03:52)Quote (Paladin @ May 30 2011,10:15)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 30 2011,05:24)Quote (Paladin @ May 25 2011,03:17)Written…Egeneto anthrwpos apestalmenos para theou…Translated…There was a man sent from God…If Mike wants to change the scriptures to read (Mike's translatin)There was a man sent by God…I cannot…[Read more]
Paladin replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Quote (Wispring @ May 30 2011,15:36)Hi Paladin and Mike, I have been doing some research on the use of the word para. While it is true that in english the words from and by can mean essentially the same thing, in greek, the “from” meaning is a particular point of departure and the “by” is a frame of reference that means “close to” in physical…[Read more]
Paladin replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Quote (Wispring @ May 30 2011,15:36)Hi Paladin and Mike, I have been doing some research on the use of the word para. While it is true that in english the words from and by can mean essentially the same thing, in greek, the “from” meaning is a particular point of departure and the “by” is a frame of reference that means “close to” in physical…[Read more]
Paladin replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 30 2011,05:24)Quote (Paladin @ May 25 2011,03:17)Written…Egeneto anthrwpos apestalmenos para theou…Translated…There was a man sent from God…If Mike wants to change the scriptures to read (Mike's translatin)There was a man sent by God…I cannot correct you for you do not take correction too well.Hi Paladin,Do you…[Read more]
Paladin replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 28 2011,23:49)Paladin……….Would like to know your understanding of what the word (became) in Greek means, it is my understanding that word should be rendered as (came to be) so to me the Logos who to me is and was GOD the FATHER (came to be) (IN) Jesus by way of the anointing He recieved. To me it is impossible…[Read more]
Paladin replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
First of all, Very Good Wispering. Only a point or two I would clarify, but the basic understanding is right on. And it is not simply a case of “you must say it like I say it” as so much of the thread seems to say. The reality is, logos and reema are not synonymous. Logos can be corrupted, reema will always remain God's recorded account. Men alter…[Read more]
Paladin replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
I have run you full circle around and around YOUR understanding,You might want to0 rethinki this one Mike, and try to join the human race.
Paladin replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 26 2011,12:03)Quote (Paladin @ May 25 2011,02:49)The king is supreme. The kings sends subbordinates, who speak in his stead. The issue is “obey the laws of subbordinates as you the laws of the king.”Peter's reference is “whether unto the king as supreme or unto governors as tham that are sent.So like I've been saying: Do…[Read more]
Paladin replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Quote (Wispring @ May 26 2011,06:56)Hi Irene and Paladin,Quote “There was a man sent from God”Where did God send this man from? Irene your answer to this post didn't seem, to my mind, to answer the question. My answer is that God sent this man(John the Baptist) from God's own self. My reasoning is that God has sent many prophets. God…[Read more]
Paladin replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 28 2011,01:09)Quote (Paladin @ May 27 2011,09:12)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 27 2011,01:56)To All…………..God who (IS) and (WAS) the logos are one and the same and the (IS) and (WAS) made His appearance (IN) the Flesh of Jesus by way of the CHRISTOS. Why cant we SEE what Thomas saw “MY Lord AND MY GOD”. What Palad…[Read more]
Paladin replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 27 2011,01:56)To All…………..God who (IS) and (WAS) the logos are one and the same and the (IS) and (WAS) made His appearance (IN) the Flesh of Jesus by way of the CHRISTOS. Why cant we SEE what Thomas saw “MY Lord AND MY GOD”. What
Paladin replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 26 2011,13:18)Paladin,While we're on the subject:Genesis 17:5 KJVNeither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.Does the wording “name be called Abram” mean anything other than that Abraham's actual name used to be “Abram”? If not, then you…[Read more]
Paladin replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Quote (kerwin @ May 25 2011,17:11)Paladin,Jesus was and is a Jew as God appointed the Hebrew people as a people chosen to spread his word throughout the world. That is why Jesus restricted himself to teaching only the Hebrew peoples in order to prepare those that would spread the word from Jerusalem in accordance with prophecy. Therefore the J…[Read more]
Paladin replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 25 2011,12:19)Quote (Paladin @ May 24 2011,03:31)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 22 2011,13:36)Quote (Paladin @ May 21 2011,03:22)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 21 2011,15:00)Perhaps you could try my template and break it down line for line like I asked Marty to do?I don't even know what that means.Paladin,Here's the “template”, filled in…[Read more]
Paladin replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 25 2011,12:16)Quote (Paladin @ May 24 2011,17:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 24 2011,15:32)Peter mentions:1. THE KING AS SUPREME2. THE GOVERNORS THAT THE KING COMMISSIONS.THAT'S IT. NO ONE ELSE IS MENTIONED AT ALL.Yet we all KNOW that others are included because Peter says EVERY human institution, right? Oh, I have no pr…[Read more]
Paladin replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 25 2011,12:05)Quote (Paladin @ May 24 2011,03:53)“There was a man sent from God”Where did God send this man from?Could “para” be translated to say, “There was a man sent BY God”?Written…Egeneto anthrwpos apestalmenos para theou…Translated…There was a man sent from God…If Mike wants to change the scriptures to read…[Read more]
Paladin replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 24 2011,14:15)Quote (Paladin @ May 22 2011,17:00)No Mike, It is YOU who are making changes to what I said.I said the logos which was God, became not God. I did not say God became not God. Stop trying to confuse the readers.I'M confusing the readers? Look at you own words above.If the logos was GOD and then became “not G…[Read more]
Paladin replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 24 2011,15:32)Quote (Paladin @ May 23 2011,07:35)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 23 2011,14:41)Quote (Paladin @ May 22 2011,16:19)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 21 2011,14:53)Paladin, is Peter EXCLUDING all other authorities EXCEPT FOR kings and governors by his use of the word “whether”? YES or NO?Yes! since it is the king who appoints…[Read more]
Paladin replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 24 2011,14:40)Quote (Paladin @ May 23 2011,07:30)The reason being, if “theos” is translated “a god” it gives credence to the Jehovah's Witness theology.“JW theology”? What's that? Of course the indefinite article is implied and by all means should be added in the English translations. 1:1 OBVIOUSLY speaks of TWO, one of…[Read more]
Paladin replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 24 2011,14:18)Paladin, Here's the “template”, filled in with your answers for all but the last line. Just fill in the last line for me, please.6Who, being in the form of God: While he was a human beingNot my answer Mike, your answer.Quote did not consider equality with God something to be grasped: While he was a hu…[Read more]
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