Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 08 2011,14:43)Quote (Paladin @ June 07 2011,03:43)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 07 2011,11:47)Quote (Paladin @ June 06 2011,09:03)“you” in Greek is “su.”Greek “Seautou” translates into English reflexive pronoun “yourself.”Figure it out.  Okay, I fixed it.  Will you answer it now?But okay, tell me what the first use of “para” i…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 07 2011,11:47)Quote (Paladin @ June 06 2011,09:03)“you” in Greek is “su.”Greek “Seautou” translates into English reflexive pronoun “yourself.”Figure it out.  Okay, I fixed it.  Will you answer it now?But okay, tell me what the first use of “para” in 17:5 signifies.And now, Father, glorify me WITH YOURSELF………..Does t…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 05 2011,04:10)Quote (Paladin @ June 04 2011,08:10)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 02 2011,13:16)Quote (Paladin @ June 01 2011,08:39)Luke 1:30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour *with God.Whatever you say about “para” in John 17:5 must also apply to Luke 1:30, or a reasonable explanation as to…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 02 2011,13:16)Quote (Paladin @ June 01 2011,08:39)Luke 1:30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour *with God.Whatever you say about “para” in John 17:5 must also apply to Luke 1:30, or a reasonable explanation as to why not,First that's a strange assertion, that one use must mean the same…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 03 2011,15:10)Paladin,These are YOUR words:Quote If in fact, Jesus had prior glory, and now does not, but asks to have it again, the tense would not be “imperfect” for the “imperfect” references action that was continuous.It is THESE words to which I responded, showing yet another of your many claims to be inaccurate.Mike,…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 02 2011,13:06)Quote (Paladin @ June 01 2011,08:16) describes a continuing action occuring in the past. If in fact, Jesus had prior glory, and now does not, but asks to have it again, the tense would not be “imperfect” for the “imperfect” references action that was continuous.The action WAS contiuous?  Or the action will…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ June 02 2011,11:35)Hi Brother Paladin:I am still praying, but this is a comment made by someone about these scriptures, and this is what I believe is meant:It was through this same Spirit that the proclamation was made to those who lived in the days of Noah. Does this mean that Christ went to make this proclamation after His…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ June 02 2011,07:59)Hi Brother Paladin:I am looking at a Greek interlinear, and according to what I read here the literal reading of what was said in 1 Peter 3:17-19 is as follows:1:17For (it is) better, if the will of God wills(it), to suffer(for) doing good than (for) doing evil. 18Because even Christ once suffered concerning…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ June 02 2011,06:28)Hi Brother Paladin:Jesus may have gone and preached to the spirits in prison after his resurrection from the dead, and by spirits in prison, this may refer to these referenced by the following scriptures:Quote Jude 1:6   And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ June 02 2011,05:23)Hi Brother:You ask:Quote What? You think me a novice?No, I do not, but does that mean that you know everything or that you could not possibly be wrong on this issue. Why are you changing the standard of your previous post?Quote Undoubtedly, these scriptures in 1 Peter are not the easiest to understandHow does…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ June 02 2011,01:37)Quote (Paladin @ June 01 2011,23:53)Quote (942767 @ June 01 2011,05:21)Hi Brother Paladin:How can what you say here be true:Quote This is reinforced by Peter –  His spirit descended below the grave level to visit the spirits imprisoned in the days of Noah.When Jesus said at his death:Quote Luk 23:46   And when J…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ June 02 2011,01:16) In John 1:6, “God” is genitive.  So para would literally mean “from beside” God.  But since there is no indication in the scriptures that John the Baptist was LITERALLY sent from beside God, I assume it is figurative.  When many translations render it as “sent from God”, the understanding is also figurative, an…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 31 2011,02:48)Quote (Wispring @ May 29 2011,22:36)Hi Paladin and Mike,   I have been doing some research on the use of the word para. While it is true that in english the words from and by can mean essentially the same thing, in greek, the “from” meaning is a particular point of departure and the “by” is a frame of…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 01 2011,10:48)Quote (Paladin @ May 31 2011,08:03)Then Paul ties it together for us – 10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.Where again did Paul say he ascended to?  There's your answer to “where I was before”, Paladin.  The point Jesus made was, “What?  …[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ June 01 2011,05:21)Hi Brother Paladin:How can what you say here be true:Quote This is reinforced by Peter –  His spirit descended below the grave level to visit the spirits imprisoned in the days of Noah.When Jesus said at his death:Quote Luk 23:46   And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I c…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ June 01 2011,05:21)Hi Brother Paladin:How can what you say here be true:Quote This is reinforced by Peter –  His spirit descended below the grave level to visit the spirits imprisoned in the days of Noah.When Jesus said at his death:Quote Luk 23:46   And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I c…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ June 01 2011,01:42)Quote (kerwin @ June 01 2011,00:24)To all,Quote John 9 (King James Version) 30The man answered and said unto them, Why herein is a marvellous thing, that ye know not from whence he is, and yet he hath opened mine eyes. 31Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 31 2011,11:02)Which reminds me Wispring, I forgot to mention the “DOWN” part in John 6 to you.Using the words “DOWN FROM” makes a big difference from using only the word “FROM”, don't you think?  The “DOWN” goes a long way towards implying a literal “FROM BESIDE”.peace,mikePaul tells us that concerning the ascension of…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 31 2011,10:57)Quote (Paladin @ May 30 2011,13:31)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 31 2011 @ 03:52)It's all about the context, isn't it Paladin?We know that Jesus' statement in John 6 could have been figurative……..OR LITERAL, right?  So what does the CONTEXT tell us?1.  Did the Jews to whom he was speaking take it “…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ May 26 2011,14:11)Hbr 1:8 But unto the Son , Thy throne, O God, for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness the scepter of thy kingdom.  9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the…[Read more]