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    Oxy replied to the topic Son? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 21 2006,07:38)Hi Oxy, When God says in Joel 2″ 28And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: 29And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 21 2006,07:32)hmmmHmmm? Is that it Nick? lolActually, I'm very genuine in this discussion. I have often struggled with this truth in the past and have been before the Lord many times saying I don't understand what He has shown me. Each time He has given me an answer that has fully satisfied me. This is something that…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 21 2006,07:25)Hi Oxy, You say”Yes Nick, God is the Father, Jesus is the Son and the Holy Spirit is the Holy Spirit.  Together they make up the Godhead.What is it that you find so hard to accept about that?Act 17:29  Then being offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like gold or silver or stone, e…[Read more]

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    Oxy replied to the topic Son? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 21 2006,07:16)Hi Oxy, Does it make sense that the Father filled his son with His Spirit? Same thing. Same for usIt doesn't really matter whether it makes sense or not Nick. It was God's choice to give the Holy Spirit to Jesus. Who are we to argue?

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    Nick, there's a new thread called When Begotten. It looks interesting.

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 20 2006,23:42)Hi Oxy, Can you show me trinity taught by any of God's servants? If not then why would you put yourself above them and teach it?So did the whole trinity dwell in Christ? That seems to make four.If Jesus has never not been part of God then Son of God is just a convenient label, not a fact.Why could God's…[Read more]

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    Oxy replied to the topic Arius in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 3 months ago

    Ahh Is, I see we are on a role here. Good to see you mate.

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    Oxy replied to the topic Arius in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 09 2006,22:09)Hi, This is topicalHi Nick, I have noticed on a number of occasions you post a comment like this and I'm left wondering if there should be a link somewhere to another discussion? Can you please enlighten me.

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    Thanks Is, that makes it even plainer.

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    Oxy replied to the topic Arius in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ May 14 2005,00:37)I will start with this one from Nick. Encyclopaedia Britannica The Son must be therefore deemed a creature who has been called into existence out of nothing and has had a beginning. Moreover, the Son can have no direct knowledge of the Father since the Son is finite and of a different order of existence.Does the…[Read more]

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    Quote (sscott @ Nov. 21 2006,05:13)When was Jesus Begotten?  Before coming to earth, at this Birth, at His Resurection?  When was it..what does the scripture say?Hi sscottAccording to http://www.dictionary.com to beget means to father or sire. In the beginning was the Word as you well know. Scripture tells us that the Word was made flesh. It doesn't s…[Read more]

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    So you keep saying Nick. There are none so blind…….

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 20 2006,23:45)Hi Oxy, So God's begotten Son and His created sons that existed before the foundations of the earth were laid were not really sons but it was just a turn of phrase? Your argument is again with scripture.Well that seems to be a matter of opinion Nick, and certainly one I do not share.Joh 1:14 And the Word…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 21 2006,01:23)Hi Oxy, Perhapsd you may be right about some references but a blanket statement will not find much support. And since it is a term of common usage are you going to be tolerant and allow others to continue using the term here without reacting every time?Am I going to be tolerant? I thought this site was…[Read more]

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    Oxy replied to the topic Son? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 21 2006,03:31)Quote (Oxy @ Nov. 20 2006,04:45)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 19 2006,18:59)Hi Oxy, You are teaching a new concept of God that is foreign to scripture-trinity. Strange new teachings are to be abhored.Hebrews 13:9Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings. It is good for our hearts to be…[Read more]

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    Thanks david. You say Nowhere does scripture specifically say that “the Bible is the word of God.”That is absolutely true. My argument is that we attribute many things to the Bible that should be attributed to Jesus because of the tradition of calling the Bible the word of God.

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 20 2006,20:56)Hi Oxy, Why would you compare the begettal of the Word with the birth of a man?Ps 2″ 7I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. 'Do you think the image of God could have had any other derivation than from God alone?  Since he is described as the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 20 2006,22:00)Hi Oxy, You say”Yes Nick, God is the Father, Jesus is the Son and the Holy Spirit is the Holy Spirit.  Together they make up the Godhead.What is it that you find so hard to accept about that?” Firstly it is a concept that is foreign to scripture. Secondly the words translated as GODHEAD in scripture do not…[Read more]

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    thanks lol

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 20 2006,11:10)Hi Oxy, You say about 1Jn 4.9-10″The Word was born as the Son of God, sent by God for our sakes.  The Word of God was not born in the beginning and was therefore not a son.  God sent the Word to the world as His Son, born of Mary.  The Word of God was not a child in the beginning, but was with God and was Go…[Read more]

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