Quote (gollamudi @ Aug. 31 2008,18:11)Amen to that post my brother Gene. They should understand this simple truth that Jesus never existed as some being prior to his birth except in the mind and perfect plan of God otherwise they prove Mormonism which believes pre-existence of souls of men prior to their birth.Thanks and love to youAdamHi Adam,…[Read more]

Quote (Tiffany @ Aug. 31 2008,20:12)Quote (Oxy @ Aug. 31 2008,17:47)Irene, thanks for giving up on me lol.  Firstborn is first born.  Jesus was not born in Heaven, but was in the beginning, according to Scripture.  Until salvation was made available through Jesus there was only creation.  Jesus was the firstborn of God.  Scripture verifies it.<…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 31 2008,12:25)Quote (Oxy @ Aug. 30 2008,19:50)Interesting to note that Jesus WAS God.  Joh 1:1Was “Jesus” the Word spoken of in John 1:1?  How do you know it was J E S U S?To my knowledge, J E S U S wasn't alive until he was born of Mary?Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was G…[Read more]

Irene, thanks for giving up on me lol. Firstborn is first born. Jesus was not born in Heaven, but was in the beginning, according to Scripture. Until salvation was made available through Jesus there was only creation. Jesus was the firstborn of God. Scripture verifies it.

Quote (theodorej @ Aug. 31 2008,05:36)Greetings OXY…..I believe we share a similiar understanding with respect to The Word….Please consider this and let me know what you think…..We have God the father who created  by virtue of his word (eg.Let there be light and there was light and it was good).As we know God is spirit and spirit is the…[Read more]

Quote (Tiffany @ Aug. 31 2008,02:39)Oxy  You are forgetting that there are other Scriptures that show that Jesus was with the Father as His Son, before the world was. Since He came forth from the Father I can say that it is His Son. I let you read all those Scriptures that refer to it.Col. 1:15-16Col 1:18 is also important because it shows that…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 31 2008,08:55)Oxy……the Glory Jesus had with the Father was the foreordained Glory He would recieve not something He actually had before he was ever born on earth, as some would want you to believe. Jesus was foreordained as Peter said that means he did not preexist as a being until he was born on earth.peace…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 20 2008,05:19)Jesus called his FATHER God.Jesus never called himself God.Jesus never called the Spirit God.Why believe the Trinity?Interesting to note that Jesus WAS God. Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Then then Heb 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower…[Read more]

Seems like I'm repeating myself here, but what is new?Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Joh 1:2 He was in the beginning with God. Joh 1:3 All things came into being through Him, and without Him not even one thing came into being that has come into being. Joh 1:4 In Him was life, and the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 28 2008,18:14)Oxy…..I don't read scripture with the understanding that Jesus is the one and only word of GOD, I read scripture with the understanding that GOD Spoke (HIS) WORDS through the prophets and in these latter days Spoke (HIS) Words (THROUGH) a Son. It was God's words no one else's that were Spoke. Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ Aug. 27 2008,00:17)God's creation itself is His family that's why we are created in Christ Jesus to be God's children.Hi, can I suggest that rather than God's creation being God's family, that we as people have the potential to be God's children upon our repentance and acceptance of the Lordship Jesus…

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 27 2008,06:08)Oxy…….But Jesus said the words were not His words, what do we do with that then, while he can be the spokesman of God and relay GOD”S words to us , that does not make the Word does it.. Jesus is the word of God in a representative state not actual state. He relayed God's words to us. Just as He said He…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 27 2008,06:08)Oxy…….But Jesus said the words were not His words, what do we do with that then, while he can be the spokesman of God and relay GOD”S words to us , that does not make the Word does it.. Jesus is the word of God in a representative state not actual state. He relayed God's words to us. Just as He said He…[Read more]

This is an interesting topic. John 1 In the beginning was the Word… and then later, all things were created by the Word.. then the Word of God spoke to Abraham, Moses, Joshua, Samuel, Nathan, Gad, Solomon, and so many others in the Old Testament. Then the Word became flesh and was called Jesus. Later in Revelation 18 we see the Word of God on…[Read more]

Hi guys, dare I quote John 1: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God and was with God. Then later, the Word became flesh and was called Jesus. Then after He had done His thing He prayed saying Joh 17:4 I have glorified You upon the earth. I have finished the work which You have given Me to do. Joh 17:5 And now Father, glorify Me…[Read more]

Who said anything about trinity? Are you putting words in my mouth again? You want me to eat more words?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 21 2008,18:03)Hi Oxy, The monogenes Son of God was sent into the worldHe sent His only begotten Son into the world. He was not a Son until He was begotten of Mary. That's what begotten means.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 21 2008,18:24)Seriously Oxy it is a word that reall seems to defy a simple translation.Unique seems a little narrow. What does ONLY BEGOTTEN mean?Only begotten means that Jesus was the only Son of God who was born to Him in the natural. All of the other sons and daughters of God are people who have been born of the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 21 2008,17:44)Hi Oxy, Both words are acceptable translations.When you know the Holy Spirit, that kinda changes.

Ahhh.. a GREEK word! no wonder I didn't find it lol. I concede on this one