Ah…..good point. Hmmmm. Well, let me take a look at this in the morning when I'm more awake. Off to bed I go….Thanks, Nick.Goodnight,Mandy

Hi Irene,It looks like you started a new thread for songs? I thought that is what this thread is for, in part?I was singing with my daughter today. It's funny, she is a bit tone-deaf but the interesting thing is she hears the harmony sometimes first before the melody. So sometimes we have perfect harmony together, but other times…….oh dear!…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 29 2008,10:15)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 29 2008,04:51)OK, brother's back to the topic huh?   Supergeek,Here are some jewels in Ephesians for salvation by faith alone and not by water baptism:Ephesians 1:13And you were also included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation.Having believed, you…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 29 2008,10:15)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 29 2008,04:51)OK, brother's back to the topic huh?   Supergeek,Here are some jewels in Ephesians for salvation by faith alone and not by water baptism:Ephesians 1:13And you were also included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation.Having believed, you…[Read more]

SG,We see things differently, obviously.Eph 1:3 says that they heard the truth and then they BELIEVED the truth.  Having believed, they were marked with the holy Spirit.  Whether or not they were already baptized is speculation, at best.  There is no indication that water baptism is needed to be counted as one of God's possessions.For by grace we…[Read more]

SG,We see things differently, obviously.Eph 1:3 says that they heard the truth and then they BELIEVED the truth.  Having believed, they were marked with the holy Spirit.  Whether or not they were already baptized is speculation, at best.  There is no indication that water baptism is needed to be counted as one of God's possessions.For by grace we…[Read more]

If not by faith and grace given to us by God, then by what?Believe that God has raised Jesus from the dead and be saved. All those who call out to the LORD will be saved! For it is by grace that you are saved – not of yourselves. The list goes on and on and on…….Perhaps you could list the verses that show the “requirements” for salvation…[Read more]

Hey Jerry,Nice thread idea – thanks.Um yes, I have changed my views because of posts here by certain members. The list is actually too long to detail. But briefly, Adam Pastor gave me some new insights to Phil. 2 and tithing that I had not considered and so I adopted those views because they were more logical than my views.I have definitely…[Read more]

I voted because I love poll's!  But I think the question is a bit broad only because most of Christendom is trinitarian.  So I predict that the poll with show a near 100% for those who came to know Jesus through a trinitarian.  Anyway, I've shared my experience before many times here.  I'm sure you want to hear from some new folks.Let's have mor…[Read more]

I voted because I love poll's!  But I think the question is a bit broad only because most of Christendom is trinitarian.  So I predict that the poll with show a near 100% for those who came to know Jesus through a trinitarian.  Anyway, I've shared my experience before many times here.  I'm sure you want to hear from some new folks.Let's have mor…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ June 29 2008,06:42)Hi Not3Quote I have heard to the contrary on certain programs that the History channel puts out and other's. There is evidence for a world-wide flood. I guess it depends on which camp you want to draw your evidence from? What evidence?StuartOh, you know how these TV shows go….there are “experts” in every camp.…[Read more]

Hi Stu,Good to hear from you!Quote What do you really think of the 'with god anything is possible' line?  Isn't that a cop out for people who don't have a straight story?To some extent this is absolutely true.  There are some things that Christians cannot explain.  They cannot explain them because God's ways are above our ways (another cop ou…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 29 2008,05:39)Mandy……you received that Grace when you were Baptized with holy spirit. Mandy look up the meaning of the Word Grace, It doesn't mean what most people think, it is Divine influence in your life. That divine influence is being given to you in your Heart and that caused us to chose the things of God. Your…[Read more]

In my sincere study of the scriptures – wanting to find the Trinity there – I realized that God is a jealous God and he will NOT share his glory with another.The glory assigned to the Son is that of the Only begotten Son, not Creator. There are some verses that seem to point to Jesus being God, but certainly not as many that point to the fact…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ June 27 2008,02:28)Hi Mandy,To whom this question is pointed to?There was something in WJ's previous post to mine that made me ponder “rank” and the fact that God is One.Anyway, the question was for anyone who cared to answer.

DK,Even our faith is a gift from God. Eph. 2:8For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith – and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God…….

What VALUE was there in the sacrifice of Jesus, the Son of God?Value: the worth of something in terms of the amount of other things for which it can be exchanged or in terms of some medium of exchange.According to this definition of “value” it seems to me that while Jesus is the beloved Son of our Father……we are worth just as much as he!…[Read more]

It is by grace we are saved.If by grace alone, there is no need for the symolism of baptism .

OK, brother's back to the topic huh?   Supergeek,Here are some jewels in Ephesians for salvation by faith alone and not by water baptism:Ephesians 1:13And you were also included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation.Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised holy Spirit, which is a deposit…[Read more]

OK, brother's back to the topic huh?   Supergeek,Here are some jewels in Ephesians for salvation by faith alone and not by water baptism:Ephesians 1:13And you were also included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation.Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised holy Spirit, which is a deposit…[Read more]