Quote (Stu @ Aug. 11 2008,21:09)Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 11 2008,17:05)Quote (Stu @ Aug. 11 2008,07:16)My observation is when considering things that are properly called facts, those with the most faith know the least truth.You must not observe very many Christians?Just because someone has great faith doesn't mean they check their brains at the…[Read more]

Quote (Adam Pastor @ Aug. 11 2008,10:06)Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 10 2008,19:57)Which came first – pagan belief or truth? Perhaps I should add, that centuries before Christ, pagans had been teaching such things.Hence, Christ's virginal conception is not a “copy” of a pagan tale; but rather something totally unique, performed by the Almighty GOD of…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Aug. 11 2008,07:16)My observation is when considering things that are properly called facts, those with the most faith know the least truth.You must not observe very many Christians?Just because someone has great faith doesn't mean they check their brains at the door.Faith is required of every body for simple living.

Quote (Adam Pastor @ Aug. 10 2008,06:21)Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 09 2008,17:18)Quote (Adam Pastor @ Aug. 09 2008,21:54)Quote (gollamudi @ Aug. 09 2008,09:18)If God can create woman from Man in the beginning why not the same God can not create man from woman alone ?Amen! Adam. I totally agree. No mysticism needed!!Is the process of simply conception…[Read more]

Hi Kevin,At the end of any day, and certainly at the end of any quest for truth and knowledge……..faith remains.Hold tight to it!Love,Mandy

Quote (Adam Pastor @ Aug. 09 2008,21:54)Quote (gollamudi @ Aug. 09 2008,09:18)If God can create woman from Man in the beginning why not the same God can not create man from woman alone ?Amen! Adam. I totally agree. No mysticism needed!!Is the process of simply conception “mysticism”? Why?Many are offended that God could father his own Son. I…[Read more]

Adam Pastor,So good to hear from you! I know that your beliefs line up nicely with the Biblical Unitarians, however my strays in the conception of Jesus area.Please tell me, do you beleive that Jesus was truly conceived of God's holy Spirit and Mary? It seems that most want to believe that Jesus is the son of Man and the Son of God…..but they…[Read more]

Hi Kevin,Quote Your posts in the Believers section do not reflect this. You no longer question the bible, you just question other's interpretation of it. There is a big difference. This is your opinion. I believe you base a bit of your opinon on the fact that I have also disappointed you. I did not remain in “non-believer” status. I did not…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 08 2008,03:02)However, if all you do is stick your hands over your eyes and cotton in your ears and sing “Jesus loves me, this I know” then you are only avoiding the examination of why you have faith in the first place.LOL, ironically enough there have been many times that I have done just this, Kevin (“..hands over my eyes…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ Aug. 09 2008,13:12)You say that Jesus was sharing some material substance like DNA and sperm, but I ask you, can God the immortal spirit being possess any mortal nature in Him ?Why not see the truth in my honest arguments?Hi Adam,I see your honest arguments.  Please don't take things too personal here.  When I read posts, I m…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 09 2008,07:45)His unique origins as the Word or as a son born directly of God through the dust of Mary did not cause him to be anything but a man.Of course I completely disagree that Jesus was only a man from dust. He was the man from heaven! Adam is the one who gets to claim the title, “The earthly man”.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 09 2008,06:58)Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 09 2008,06:01)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 08 2008,18:25)Hi not3, 1 Cor1545So also it is written, “The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL ” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.   So there was a time when the second MANwas not a lifegiving spirit if he became one.When was this?Hi…[Read more]

WIT,I guess I gave you 3 solid, “No's” to your questions…….in your mind am I still considered a Christian? Hope so!Mandy

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Aug. 07 2008,08:04)To be fair, Mandy hasn't really said what she currently believes.  (I could be wrong, as I only check the forum on occasion.)Frankly, I can't tell where she is coming from these days.  Though she does not post outright skepticism, sentiments like, “…you don't have to give up just because there are major h…[Read more]

Hey Kevin,Thanks for your response. Let me add a few more thoughts to our conversation.Quote But to me, you took the easier route. Some time back you questioned the bible and its words and often used the phrase “dried ink”. However, I see that you have now slipped back into accepting it all — or so it seems — and that, to me, is the path of…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ Aug. 08 2008,23:27)God can not have any mortal substance in Him to share with Human JesusAdam,Are you forgetting Mary? Mandy

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 08 2008,18:25)Hi not3, 1 Cor1545So also it is written, “The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL ” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.   So there was a time when the second MANwas not a lifegiving spirit if he became one.When was this?Hi Nick,Simply put, when Jesus poured his life out in death he gave life to…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 09 2008,03:03)Adam…….As our sister Jodi says, you have nailed it brother. This is how i knew the Spirit was in you, because you easily understand these truths. Don't let any shake you from what God has given you to understand. Love and peace to you and yours Adam………….geneGene and Adam,I also respect Jodi's…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ Aug. 08 2008,23:27)Jesus the man was infact like you and me and will remain like us even after glorification as we are also going to share his image in resurrection.Adam, were you sired by the Almighty? Perhaps could this qualify as being one difference between you and the Lord Jesus?I am asking this obvious question because…[Read more]

Jesus didn't BECOME anything for us to live……he was given…..he was born!Off to bed – thanks for the chat Nick!Mandy