Quote (t8 @ Sep. 01 2008,23:16)To Not3in1.Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 01 2008,15:31)Thanks, t8.But Jesus didn't say he was older than Abraham.  He said that before Abraham was I am.  Am what?MandyHe said, “before Abraham, ego eimi”.Before = BeforeAbraham = Abrahamwas = come to pass, be made, becomeI = ego, a primary pronoun of the first person I am = t…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 01 2008,15:54)But for Jesus it is at least before Abraham came into being.How do you know for sure?

A whole city needed to be destroyed (Judged)? Kinda like the flood…..?

Quote (Tim2 @ May 29 2007,18:03)Not3in1,I enjoy talking to you, though it can be frustrating.  But you have to understand that we are not brother and sister.  You don't believe in the same Jesus that I do.  Please repent and believe the truth.TimI'm giving this thread a quick read-through. I had forgotten about this dialog with Tim2, and the fa…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 01 2008,10:09)Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 29 2008,00:26)If Jesus was saying that he preexisted in the “I am” statement, he sure chose a strange time to introduce that concept.  There was no explaination given after that statement either.  All is pretty vague, if you ask me.What is strange about the timing and the place?The question he w…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Aug. 31 2008,23:31)My message is still that our experiences are pretty much the same but your interpretation of them is different.I agree. We start from a differet presupposition and build from there.I'm wondering though, I'm able to take my Christianity glasses off to view your world…..are you able to put my glasses on to view…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Aug. 31 2008,22:36)Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 31 2008,19:43)Stu,”90210″?  Were you a fan of the show?No.  Not at all.  I do find 94…'s number so frustratingly difficult to remember when addressing him/her that I lose interest after the 94 bit.  I can remember 90210 though…Stuart Bro 94 has also received some attention from the mem…[Read more]

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Quote (epistemaniac @ Aug. 31 2008,15:52)well if Christians can't be the ones to decide who is a Christian and who isn't, then who can?Thank God this isn't true!!The Lord knows who's are his. Man cannot know the heart of another man.Mandy

Hi Stuart,I guess I'm not expressing myself very well but I'm really not sure how to explain the idea I'm trying to get accross to you. It's like trying to tell someone what it feels like to go swimming when they have never been in water…. You and I have two totally different presuppositions that we build our views upon. There may also be…[Read more]

Stu,”90210″? Were you a fan of the show?

Quote (Oxy @ Aug. 30 2008,19:50)Interesting to note that Jesus WAS God. Joh 1:1Was “Jesus” the Word spoken of in John 1:1? How do you know it was J E S U S?To my knowledge, J E S U S wasn't alive until he was born of Mary?

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 31 2008,07:52)Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 31 2008,07:05)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 31 2008,06:20)Mistranslations and misunderstandings of scriptures make God look like some kind of monster that He is not.I'm sure you can appreciate then, those of us who do not put their full confidence in the bible?No, you must seek out the truth.  Ask…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 31 2008,06:42)To All……..thanks for the concern, I do believe Jesus was certanly in the plan and will of God before the foundations of the world was ever made. But as far as his existence outside of that plan and will i do not, and that plan and will included GOD Creating another ADAM, who was born at the right time…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 31 2008,06:20)Mistranslations and misunderstandings of scriptures make God look like some kind of monster that He is not.I'm sure you can appreciate then, those of us who do not put their full confidence in the bible?

Kathi,I think you have brought the most unique argument to the board since I have started here. I used to think there was nothing new under the sun here, as I've heard the same arguments over and over again. But your theory of John 1:1 and the Son of God is very unique and I've never heard it before. Whether that is good or bad is up for…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 31 2008,05:49)Hi:Quote Exodus 21:20-21:”And if a man beats his male or female servant with a rod, so that he dies under his hand, he shall surely be punished.  Notwithstanding, if he remains alive a day or two, he shall not be punished; for he is his property.”NIV translates this verse as follows:Quote Exd 21:20   “If a man…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Aug. 30 2008,19:23)Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 30 2008,18:02)Thanks, Stuart, for answering Isaiah's post.I am beginning to realize that a lot of evolution/scientific explainations make sense, and as you and other's have said, there is no need for a god (in regards to those explainations).  But somehow even if my mind accepts that the…[Read more]

Thanks, Stuart, for answering Isaiah's post.I am beginning to realize that a lot of evolution/scientific explainations make sense, and as you and other's have said, there is no need for a god (in regards to those explainations).  But somehow even if my mind accepts that the scientific explaination is right, I do not want to let go of my love for…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 29 2008,21:06)The Word did not change its nature and become flesh.What do we do with the Son of God AND the Son of Man, then?I know you don't think much of Mary's contribution, but she did give something to Jesus other than just skin. If she didn't she was just a skin-doning-factory for an incarnation!…