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    Thanks, Irene.Ironically it's the bible that makes me doubt more than anything. Maybe I study TOO much? :D

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    At this point we're all guessing! :;):

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    Irene,Oh, the minute I heard she slipped on her bad knee….my own bad knee said, “Ouch!”. I will definitely say a prayer for her tonight.Love,Mandy

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    Who is Jesus?We all have different answers yet we read the same bible.Something has to be wrong with that?Mandy

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    As the Son of GOD (being a Prince) he certainly would have had pride. But he chose not to entertain that or grasp at his status. If Jesus was humble – we should be even more humble. I believe this is the thrust of the context Paul was trying to preach.

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    Kevin,I feel for your situation here. I'm with you in questioning “Why?”. I see that you have some good questions or observations regarding the conflicts between what the OT teaches and what the NT teaches. Some things cannot be explained away – there are obvious problems!I have come to view the bible a little differently. I believe that you…[Read more]

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    Not3in1 replied to the topic Is slavery wrong? in the forum Faith 16 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 06 2008,23:58)I have serious doubts about what I believe too but that is how it should be.Really? What do you seriously doubt?Mandy

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    He emptied himself. *It's still questioned just what he emptied*Taking the form of a bond servant. *He became poor so that he could reach us*Being made in the likeness of men. *He was born to Mary, a human being*To me, this passage has never meant that Jesus lived prior to his birth. It could simply mean that he emptied himself of his pride…[Read more]

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    Quote (kejonn @ Sep. 06 2008,15:28)I am truly sorry you cannot differentiate criticism of the bible with “trashing your beliefs”. Perhaps your beliefs have little in common with reality.Do you realize people have given their lives to defend the bible from criticism?

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 06 2008,01:08)I believe that the Son of God was alive before the creation of the world as the Son of God, a heavenly being.And then born a lesser birth through the women?Born a Son of God, and then born-again the Son of God AND Man. How many times was Light/Word/Jesus born anyway?I think Nick believes he was born-yet-AGAIN…[Read more]

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    John 3 – WELCOME!Glad that you are here,Mandy

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    Not3in1 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (dirtyknections @ Sep. 05 2008,11:13)Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 05 2008,08:41)DK,I'm afraid I'll have the same answer later.  I've been through this before with Nick.  It IS possible to do something (create, plan) “through” someone who is not existing physically.I created a college fun for my children though they were not born yet.  THROUGH th…[Read more]

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    Not3in1 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Sep. 05 2008,11:27)When God created all through his son, he also did it for him.If Jesus took part in the creating as some believe, then it wasn't just God doing it “for him”…….Jesus had to help. Right?Thanks,Mandy

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    Not3in1 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 2 months ago

    DK,I'm afraid I'll have the same answer later. I've been through this before with Nick. It IS possible to do something (create, plan) “through” someone who is not existing physically.I created a college fun for my children though they were not born yet. THROUGH the plan of them in the future, I created this account. In fact, nothing was…[Read more]

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    Not3in1 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (dirtyknections @ Sep. 05 2008,07:39)Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 05 2008,07:28)Quote (dirtyknections @ Sep. 05 2008,00:20)Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 04 2008,18:32)Quote (david @ Sep. 04 2008,16:00)Quote God himself said that he was ALONE when he laid the foundations of the world.  ALONE!  If Jesus was there, he sure didn't get any credit.  Mandy, Of co…[Read more]

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    Not3in1 replied to the topic Is slavery wrong? in the forum Faith 16 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (kejonn @ Sep. 04 2008,23:48)Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 04 2008,01:48)Who ever said the bible was infallible?  The Pope?  Is it written in scripture?Nick, t8, many others on here  :;):I meant – originally. :laugh: Hey Kevin, Thanks for posting here at heavennet. You definitely give a perspective that is needed here. Christians should be ready to give an…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Sep. 04 2008,21:28)Quote (kejonn @ Sep. 02 2008,13:26)Ah, but you will never be able to see things from Stu's perspective unless you stop believing in God. So it is not different for him as he must start believing in God to see things from your perspective.Hmm I think I actually agree with you.Do you have to starve to see things from…[Read more]

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    Not3in1 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (dirtyknections @ Sep. 05 2008,00:20)Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 04 2008,18:32)Quote (david @ Sep. 04 2008,16:00)Quote God himself said that he was ALONE when he laid the foundations of the world.  ALONE!  If Jesus was there, he sure didn't get any credit.  Mandy, Of course there is a scripture that says something like this.  I'm wondering whi…[Read more]

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    Hi Kathi,If God will not share his glory with another, wouldn't you think that would include his name as well? Just a thought…Thanks,Mandy

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    Frank,Exactly. Mary, Maria or Miriam (as she has been called here) could not of supplied both sets. Where did the second set come from if it was not from God?Thanks,Mandy

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