Hi Keith,Quote To take the road of doubting the written scriptures will only lead to not believing that Jesus is the Messiah and eventually not believing YHWH is God, IMO.Maybe. I've come full circle with the doubt thing. I believe that each follower of Christ is capable of asking the hard questions and seeking out the answers. I did survive my…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 12 2008,10:58)Hi Not3, Jesus quoted Isaiah word for word. Does that seal of approval only stretch to that sentence?Who recorded Jesus' words?How long after Jesus uttered them were they recorded?Much room for error.

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 05 2008,16:05)Hi Mandy,Sorry things are rough going right now for you.  I am concerned for you being so open to other teachings as “God's word”.  I don't believe other “religious books” teach that Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life and that there is no other way to the Father but through Him. I may be mistaken but o…[Read more]

Welcome Meerkat (cute name)!It sounds like you have many interesting things to share. I'll have to come back some other time and read up on YOU. Keep wondering…..Love,Mandy

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 11 2008,13:41)Nick……..can't we do away with the insults for a while, you bridge from subject to personal attacks . Come on Nick,love……………..geneIt takes a spoon to stir the soup.It takes a little yeast to work through the dough.One bad apple can spoil the lot.Bro Gene,I come here very rarely now, mainly…[Read more]

So, DK, is it safe to say that you are no longer attending your home church? I haven't been here for a while – not sure where you stand now?How is the baby?Love,Mandy

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 10 2008,07:22)Hi, The bible is the recommended foundation for our faith.Mt7 24Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 12 2008,09:56)Hi not3, Two arms and two legs. O you mean his mighty importance in the eyes of GodIndeed.I've missed your sarcasm. No one does it like you do, Nick.Yes, two arms and two legs, however, as to his spirit he was proclaimed the Son of God.You and I will have to wait for our adoption.Ordinary? No, no I'm…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 12 2008,09:45)Hi not3, So conception relates to the body. It does not relate to spiritual beings without bodiesOur limited understanding of conception is that it is on a physical level, yes.Conceiving spiritual beings without bodies sounds a bit Star Trekky to me. The bible may make mention that this occured, but I am…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 12 2008,09:47)Hi not3, When did the king begin to reign? At birth?When debating the who and what of Jesus, a lot can be said of him. None of what can be said of him includes “ordinary”, in my opinion. A King is a king. Even an impotent King would still be royalty.

Quote (Jodi @ Dec. 10 2008,12:44)I have actually read that an adopted son was seen as a blood son in regards to inheritance. As well I have read that if a woman's husband dies, then she would need to marry the husband's next of kin, and their child would legally be the son of the woman's first husband and the son would receive the dead husband's…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 12 2008,09:41)Hi not3,He started his earthly life as an ordinary man. Then God filled him at the Jordan.He thus became for us the source of that Spirit.It is hard to leave old teachings and ways of thinking, isn't it?Jesus was BORN King of Kings, and Lord of Lords.There is nothing “ordinary” about this.He had it at birth,…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 12 2008,09:38)Of special origins for sure but and anointed man.You should have stopped after, “..but….”;)

Quote (dirtyknections @ Dec. 11 2008,03:30) ..Ok my friends…I have been doing a lot of soul searching and I have a very serious question for the Heaven.net family…Alright here goes….(takes deep breath)How do you know that the bible is REALLY God's word?Now before you answer the question let me clarify…I for one do not doubt that “GOD”…[Read more]

Quote (meerkat @ Dec. 12 2008,05:55)Reincarnation is the incarnating again of a spirit, the spirit does not hop straight from one body to another, the idea is that the spirit which left a body, went back to God – then later is incarnated into a physical body.  If we believe what Paul says that first is natural and then is spiritual – Jesus could…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 12 2008,07:22)Hi MK, Scripture says he is a man.1 Timothy 2:5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;Do we need more info?Yes, a man. But the disciples wondered to themselves what “…manner of man….” he was!Something to ponder…

Quote (meerkat @ Dec. 11 2008,05:45)so mary can not give Jesus his maleness so either Jesus has his maleness from the Holy Spirit and is half divine and half flesh or he has a human father (Joseph)I totally, 100% agree that Jesus is divine!!Love,Mandy

You all are so sweet to me.No, I'm not leaving – I just don't have much to contribute these days. I only check in every now and again.Press on,Mandy

Hi all,Thanks for the emails and prayers, I appreciate it very much. My husband and I have been going through a tough time lately. This takes a lot of my energy….this is why I haven't been around much. Plus to be honest, I have lost interest in debating various theories and belief systems. Because I no longer agree that the bible is without…[Read more]

The bible just says Jesus was a man – likened unto Adam. It says he had a virgin birth. Other than that we don't know squat! It's all pretty vague. Not clear enough for anyone to make a sound judgement that a zillion other people wouldn't disagree with.The system is flawed. The book is flawed. The God of this religion has left major holes in…[Read more]