Quote (Lightenup @ June 08 2009,16:39)Ok Nick,So He was filled with the Spirit even at birth or after the water baptism.  Either way, He did not need to be born again because He already was a child of GOD.  Only those that aren't children of GOD need to be born again so that they will be children of GOD. Being born again makes one an adopted c…[Read more]

I'm going to re-read this thread, it looks like there is some good stuff here.Nick, I'll probably find a summary of your beliefs here, so no need to answer my question.Thanks,Mandy

Nick,Do you believe that Jesus was “born again” when the Spirit came on him upon water baptism?Thanks,Mandy

Bro Gene,Can you pin-point when you were sucked into a “fight with Nick”? If you can, you can prevent it from happening again.Love you,Mandy

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 07 2009,19:12)Hi not3, We cannot rise to be with him unless we follow him.You say we must be reborn from above but he did not?Hi Nick,John's baptism was not one of rebirth, exactly. I believe we infer that idea into the act. For no where is it written that baptism is the process of being “born again”.Jesus told Nico…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ June 06 2009,03:31)And if you retaliate to him He simple gives you a tile, even it is He who started and drew you into saying what you say to him.Perhaps a better Moderator would be one that is not so personally active in the froums?I always thought that t8 handed out the warnings – not Nick? It would be difficult for Nick to remain…[Read more]

Hi David,The boxes under Texas' name are warnings that have been given out over time.  He continued to offend and break rules, and so he is no longer able to post here.Enjoy the summer weather!Mandy

Good points, Kathi!Love,Mandy

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2009,16:46)Hi not 3, We must follow him.Hi Nick,Stick to what is written. No where does it say that Jesus was reborn – this idea has long been deduced from scripture, but it is not written in scripture.We follow Jesus – true. It is written that Jesus was born of a women; Mary. He lived, died, and rose again. We…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2009,16:46)Hi not 3, We must follow him.Hi Nick,Stick to what is written. No where does it say that Jesus was reborn – this idea has long been deduced from scripture, but it is not written in scripture.We follow Jesus – true. It is written that Jesus was born of a women; Mary. He lived, died, and rose again. We…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2009,19:01)Hi not 3,Jesus did submit to the baptism of John but then was baptised in the Spirit. He whom we follow was reborn of water and the Spirit of God.Can you show me where in the scriptures it says that Jesus was “reborn” of anything?Thanks,Mandy

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2009,19:01)Hi not 3,Jesus did submit to the baptism of John but then was baptised in the Spirit. He whom we follow was reborn of water and the Spirit of God.Can you show me where in the scriptures it says that Jesus was “reborn” of anything?Thanks,Mandy

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 04 2009,10:55)Hi, Jesus revealed an interesting aspect of God's ways in Jn810When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? 11She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 04 2009,09:48)Hi not3, Even though God was his earthly father he had to be reborn from above.We follow him.The baptism that Jesus received was the baptism for forgiveness of sins – John's baptism. It was not a baptism of new birth.Jesus was/is the new creation! No need for him to be reborn.We need to be reborn.We need…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 04 2009,06:04)Hi not 3, God, his real Father, was with him, teaching and disciplining him.We follow him into sonship by rebirth of the Spirit.So true. God was his Father from birth, not from the Jordan only.Thanks for clarifying,Mandy

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 04 2009,06:04)Hi not 3, God, his real Father, was with him, teaching and disciplining him.We follow him into sonship by rebirth of the Spirit.So true. God was his Father from birth, not from the Jordan only.Thanks for clarifying,Mandy

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 03 2009,07:40)Hi Not 3, God declared Jesus as being His son at the Jordan.Hi Nick,So when Jesus was 12 and was left behind…teaching at the temple….and said he was about his “Father's” business – was he wrong? Was Joseph his only father at that point? Or was Jesus aware that he was God's Son at 12 years old? No…[Read more]

Hi Thinker,I can see how you are getting your theory. But I wonder, if Jesus had to earn his title as son, what was the whole virgin birth thing? Why was Jesus considered “Lord” at his birth? Surely, with a title such as this, “sonship” would be automatic?Love,Mandy

Hi again,Nice to get an update from you, Irene.I think that God having a womb is close…… But it's a theory produced to support a preexistence idea. As such, it makes for good reading, but I don't believe the dots are supposed to be connected in that manner.Women have actual wombs that hold children. Men carry the seed that plant those…[Read more]

Tex,I see the colors of your fruit below your name!  So sad that you offend so many in the name of the Lord.Jesus took control of situations, and people at times.  He spoke words of truth and healing.  His anger was righteous and true.  His compassion was, well, it brings me to tears this morning; such compassion!Matthew 7:16By their fruit you wil…[Read more]