God may have had sons before Mary but…………Jesus is the only “begotten.” What say you about that?

David – thank you for the PM and for the extensive information regarding Michael/Jesus. I will print it off, and give it some thought over the next few weeks. I'm glad to know that I have a resource here (in you), to better understand the JW's. As I said before, these two ladies that come to my door have become dear friends. They have invited…[Read more]

Nick wrote re: Philippians 2:6:How about addressing it first rather than denigrating it?******************Because I asked you first! Ha! It's so easy to answer a question by posing another…..I've noticed this abot you!

Nick,Are you tempted to think that because Romans 8 says, “….in the likeness of sinful flesh…..” that he wasn't really a TRUE man? But just “took on” flesh?

Nick wrote:So he was a son begotten of God alone before he partook of flesh through Mary***********************Hi Nick, maybe I wasn't very clear. I do believe that Jesus is a man. My question/concern for you is this: Can God “beget” alone?I believe the answer is no. He can create – clearly. But to “beget” a Son – he needed Mary. And if he…[Read more]

Jerry, I'm really glad you're here. Like I said…….brace yourself. If you are not full of fear (fear is not from God), then God can speak to you through this forum. There are many men (and a few of us women folk) here who really love God and want to know him better. I've learned a lot from these brothers and sisters —- even if I don't…[Read more]

Oh, and Jerry, if things were as CLEAR as you pray they are……..we wouldn't have as many church denominations as we have today! Even on this forum, Trinitarians differ from one another, as do the Unitarians. Nothing is CRYSTAL CLEAR (1 Cor. 13:9).

Jerry wrote:No disrespect intended but you sound like a polititian************************Ha, ha……Jerry, no offense taken. You will find that we are all passionate about what we believe here. I take the Politician comment as a compliment You have some catching up to do. Maybe take a look at some of the other threads on the Thomas passages.…[Read more]

Jerry wrote:So let me make sure that I understand correctly. All that have posted since my post believe that Jesus Christ is a created being?**********************************Jerry, I understand you shock about finding Christians who do not believe in the Trinity. But believe me, if you look outside of your own church walls, you will find lots of…[Read more]

So, Jesus is a reincarnated Son of Man?Jesus is not a son of Man like you, Nick? He is a different breed? Set apart, and not made like you?Does his temptations mean anything to you, then? I'm curious – as a man – how do you relate to Jesus then?

God can “beget” by himself? Where does it say that?

P – I'm so glad because I'm getting groggy here on the West Coast. Time for bed, I'm afraid….

Nick – can you please show me this belief system in other places besides this worn-out proof text?

The term “sent” seems to add to your affirmation of pre-existence; am I correct? In other words, I've heard it said before that you have to actually exist before some one can actually “send” you. I beg to differ with you. If God is in heaven, and we are on the earth, then in order for him to “give” a Son to us (on earth), he would have to…[Read more]

Nick wrote:The Son of God had to obey God and agree to come to save our foolish wicked butts.***********************************”….agree to come….”Where in scripture does it tell us that the pre-existent Son “agreed to come” to earth?

Hi Pheonix,No, you know what I believe (if you have been following me in previous posts). I just didn't clarify myself very well in this post. What I mean by a “mini-me” in this post is not like you and your daughter. In that regard, yes, Jesus is like his Father. What I was trying to distinguish between is the idea that God has “equal” parts…[Read more]

Jerry wrote: “And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God.” ********************************Welcome Jerry!Be careful not to re-write the Word to suit you. You put “Lord” in the above sentence in all caps, to mean, of course, that Thomas was pointing to God, himself. However, in the actual Bible this “Lord” is NOT in all caps.Does…[Read more]

I see there is actually a thread for the topic of Jesus being Michael the arch angel – maybe I'll do some reading on that thread

David – are you a JW? The reason I'm asking is that if you are – I have some specific questions for you. I have had the same two ladies come to my door now for going on 4 years! We have become good friends. They are the ones that told me the Trinity wasn't true. So, for no other reason, I feel I owe them a huge “thank you” for that!!!!! We…[Read more]

Nick wrote:The firstborn Son, an image begotten of God alone********************I'm curious; why is Jesus the image of his Father only? Doesn't Mary get any credit for contributing her DNA?