If what Thomas did was not right then it would be considered Idolatry!***************True. But only if Thomas meant it in the way that you are hoping he did. There is not proof that he meant Jesus is God Almighty. You are only praying he did. Inference.

Sorry, WJ, Thomas did not say, “My LORD, and my God.” You are wishful thinking here.The LORD is reserved for God Almighty.I do not know of a Bible that puts Thomas' claim of Lord in caps.

Tim2,So every time the “Lord” is mentioned in Rev. it is referring to God?

Nick – agreed. However, the way the Trinitarians view this Thomas passage is quite different. They believe that Thomas believed that Jesus was God (incarnate).

I'm afraid that the church will not save you, Tim2. Not everyone who says, “Lord, Lord!” will get to enter into Paradise.There is no safety in numbers.

Again, God can love his Son before the worlds – just as he loved us before the worlds. That doesn't mean we existed.

CB – thanks for the great comparision list you put together back in Feb. That will really help me a ton when witnessing to others.

Again with the Thomas worship. No one else referred to Jesus as both Lord and GOD (Almighty) as you are supposing that Thomas did – NO ONE! In all of the Bible – don't you find that curious?Are you willing to bet your salvation on one doubter?A triune God is NOT the One true God that Jesus directs us to in John 17:3.Who do you say that I am?…[Read more]

Jesus is our Saviour; our mighty Jehovah ************This doesn't sound like any confession I've read in the scriptures.Who confessed this concerning Jesus?

They myopically focus on Christ's incarnation as a man, yet they ignore the overwhelming evidence of His deity.************And visa-versa. Thanks for pointing this out.

I believe the Father has loved you and me before the foundations of the world, too. Did we exist with the Father before the worlds began?

Thomas knew. “My Lord and My God”*********************************Boy, you guys really love Thomas, don't you?Paul tells us there is One God, and one Lord. If Thomas is confessing (as you hope he is) that Jesus is both that same One God AND Lord – then Thomas is confused! Note that he is the only one of the followers that did this, too. Hm???

If the Athanasian creed says there is One God in three persons.Then I agree.*****************And if Peter confessed that Jesus is the Son of the living God (not the second person in the Trinity), then I agree.

Dont flatter yourself!*********************But I simply must if you're not going to, WJ

I see my post has reveived a lot of reactions from the Trinitarians.I'm guessing it made you a bit mad, huh?I'm guessing it's because the Trinity cannot be found in logic. Only Man's wisdom can dance around (and around, and around, and around….) the logic that tells us the TRINITY ISN'T TRUE. And that makes you madder than hornets. That's OK.…[Read more]

Hey WJ, why are you siding with Epi?heehee Just kidding ya!

we look to nature to look for the Trinity you say….!?!? good point… one good example is the sun… we have the sun, its rays and its warmth….. we have, in plants… the root shoot and leaf… we have in water, ice water ands steam…. there is trinity everywhere… so thanks for allowing this principle to be addressed, though how you can…[Read more]

I'm new at the whole “quote” thing – I meant my previous post to be in response to EPI's last post.

Quote (epistemaniac @ April 24 2007,07:59)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 17 2007,07:02)Hi E, Logic seems to suggest that if the trinity is true it is written?Where?ah well… can't expect you to admit y7ou are wrong about anything now can we Nick…. too bad really….anyways….logic teaches us the Trinity is true because of the concept that the…[Read more]

You havnt hurt my feelings at all.I just didnt understand your reaction in defending t8, in light of his response and critical words toward Isaiah*****************Nothing in life is fair, WJ. And if your feelings weren't hurt, why would you care who's side I'm on, or who gets more support? Clearly this board is bias. There are certain ones who…[Read more]