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    “The thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God.” So when it is declared that only God knows, it's implicit that the Holy Spirit knows.****************Because the holy Spirit is WHO God is – not another person. Just as we have a spirit, so does God. We do not possess another “person.” 1 Cor.2:11 For who among men knows the thoughts…[Read more]

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    The reason I am asking these hypothetical questions is because it really bothers me that we are supposed to not defend our family or loved ones. Is that really what scripture teaches? What about the women “crying out” in the country? Isn't someone supposed to save her? If someone broke into my house and started to rape my 8 year old daughter -…[Read more]

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    Well, thanks brothers, but neither one of you answered my question. If you walked in on a stranger raping your wife or daughter – would you intervene? Or watch and pray for them?

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    I recently was a part of a Bible study on this topic. The male leader said that even if his wife was being raped and killed in front of him, he wouldn't resort to violence to protect her. When I asked why he said that he would have to believe she would rest in the Lord if she was killed, but that he had to turn the other cheek.Say WHAT?!?!?! Is…[Read more]

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    Not3in1 replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 2 months ago

    I've come to expect such taunting answers from Nick, but not from you. I was trying to discuss with you the meaning of Lord in the Bible. I've shown that it applies to Jesus and to God in the New Testament. I've also shown that according to the New Testament, there is only one Lord, Jesus. Hence, if God is called Lord, it means that Jesus is…[Read more]

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    Not3in1 replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 2 months ago

    You say…Quote he is an incarnation of God Almighty. Incarnation; the embodiment of a deity or spirit in some earthly form capitalized : the union of divinity with humanity in Jesus Christ *********************Incarnation is taking on bodily form.Jesus was conceived of God and Mary.Jesus is a part of God (divinity) and Mary (human). MIXED. A…[Read more]

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    Not3in1 replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 26 2007,17:21)Not35:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God. 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth…[Read more]

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    Ah, yes. That was one of the verses I was thinking of. Read one verse up from the one you shared:John 17:23″…to let the world know that you sent me and have loved THEM even as you have loved me.”If Jesus was loved before the creation of the worlds, then so were we. Right?

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    And we believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and Giver of Life******************And exactly WHERE is the Holy Spirit called “the Lord and Giver of Life”???? Tim2, can you explain this creed to us using scripture line for line?

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    and was incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the Virgin Mary*************Scripture does not say this! It says “CONCEIVED” not incarnate. Boom! There it is! :)

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    Not3in1 replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 2 months ago

    John 5:19

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    Are you sure? It seems I've read that before? That WE were also loved and chosen before the foundations of the world? Well, I'll look for that in my study in the morning and see what I come up with. And I'll get back to you on this.Jesus was chosen before the foundations of the world.We were chosen in him before the foundations of the world.…[Read more]

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    Not3in1 replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 2 months ago

    Tim, you are really dancing now, aren't you? Lord, lord, LORD, and God, god, Almighty God.

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    Not3in1 replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 2 months ago

    Where is the Son Begotten before his birth. And since he was the Word/God as you say and as I believe, if he was God how could he be a son until he was born.****************************According to your doctrine, WJ, Jesus wasn't a “true” Son anyway, so it doesn't matter if he was pre-existent or not! Jesus was not a new individual, a combination…[Read more]

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    Not3in1 replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 2 months ago

    Just ask your self why did not John or Jesus not address his statement, which would be a serious act of Idolatry?*************Curious you should ask this. John nor Jesus had anything to say contrary to Thomas because they knew he didn't mean to call him the Almighty God. Otherwise, Jesus would have corrected him like he corrected everyone else…[Read more]

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    Not3in1 replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 2 months ago

    Well since you all you non-Trinitarians love to quote 1 Corinthians 8:6 as proof that there is only one Lord, and the Lord is clearly God in this verse, then yes, every time Lord is used in Revelation, or in the New Testament for that matter, it is referring to God, otherwise there would be two Lords, which would contradict 1 Corinthians 8:6. So…[Read more]

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    Not3in1 replied to the topic Deity in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 2 months ago

    Agreed.

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    Then why does this same idea lend itself to an existing Son for you?

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    Not3in1 replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 2 months ago

    I know that he did and so did John and Jesus****************Were you there? Was John there? John wrote that we might know that Jesus was the Son of God – not God, himself.But I will take your advice and pray about these things. I'm off to bed, and I will pray and ponder all I have heard tonight. Thanks for your concern. :)

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    If we were chosen “before the foundation of the world” does that mean we existed then, too?

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