Ken, I've looked into this some since our chats. I am amazed at how much truth you are offering here. It's the stuff that you don't normally think about – unfortunately. I've been praying about the Sabbath and the Law that is meant for all of God's people. It's interesting how we look at the break in the books (OT and the NT) and I know that I…[Read more]

The creeds affirm that the Holy Spirit is God, YHVH*******************I guess I agree with your creed then! But I'm curious……does your creed affirm that the Holy Spirit is the third person in the Trinity? If so, than I do not agree. Thanks.

Tim2,When Jesus died, you say that God died too – how can that be? God cannot die.You say that everything Jesus experiences, God experiences too – how can this be? God cannot be tempted.Now this is a bit cras, my apologies; but I assume Jesus had a penis – how can this be? God is not a man.Jesus changed his mind about quite a few things – how…[Read more]

Jude 25God is our Saviour *through* Jesus Christ. (Gathered from a previous post).

Normal human beings can have mixed emotions about an event, but that does not even begin to suggest that they have two independent wills operating within them.************Excellent point! Thank you for this!

Tim2 wrote:But if Jesus is man as well as God, and man can die, and the natures cannot be divided, then God also died**************Tim, I am shocked that you would concede to such a testimony! Are you willing to deny scripture to keep your creed? I'm not sure what to say, you have me speechless. Except to remind you of three things: God is not…[Read more]

Isa 43:11I, even I, am the LORD; and *beside me there is no saviour*.*****************Jesus acts in God's stead. So that in that way, God is our ultimate Saviour – reconciling us to himself *through* his Son. I've often pondered this idea that God is our ONLY Saviour, and yet Jesus is also (either in conjuction or in God's stead) also our…[Read more]

Tim2,I can sanctify myself as well.

Isn't this a funny example of how we all see what we want to see OR what we think we see……. This is also true of how we look at scripture sometimes. It's how we can have a half a dozen different views on the same verse.

Hi brother,My sister took her life in 2004 – heroin overdose. She was only 42 years old, and now I am raising her beautiful daughter and she is missing EVERYTHING.Drug abuse has to be the greatest demon out there today. It robs you of your life and all that is worthwhile. But how do you come clean? How can you beat the pull to use? These are…[Read more]

Thanks for the kind words and advice, WJ. Ken, thanks for the PM's to keep me encouraged. I will be back. I'm going to take a bit of rest and ponder all I have learned. I just may reconsider quite a lot while I'm resting and spending time with the living Word.

Tim2 and EVERYONE,Thanks for all the scriptures that you have compiled to contend for your belief in who, and what God is. I've been away from the board and discussions for a while. I've been reading, “Leaving Church” by Barbara Brown Taylor. Good read. Very good read, in fact. Do you know what I've decided? You are entitled to believe God…[Read more]

Does that clear it up for you?*************Thank, Ken, yes that does answer my questions surrounding “COME OUT OF HER” which I've heard almost every one of you say to the other. “She” must be poplular because everyone thinks that every one ELSE is “in” her? I tell my children that when they point their finger at someone they need to be careful…[Read more]

Thanks, Cubes. You have expressed my thoughts as well. I will look into these other threads. I really appreciate it!

If the Spirit is not the Father, but is God, then please explain what that means.***************Tim,The Father IS God. The holy “Spirit” is who God is. In other words, it is NOT who Jesus is. But it is who the Father is. Because the Father IS God – it's worth repeating.Regarding the verses in John: Some people assert that “the Holy Spirit” is…[Read more]

Wow. WJ, thank you for this post! You are so right on many levels. I'll ponder this as I head out to work…

Thanks, David. This is what I was looking for in the way of guidance.

God cannot be part subordinate created god.**********Exactly! That's why the trinity is not true!God cannot be part subordinate……………remember “fully God and fully Man” – this is an example of God needing to be “part” subordinate in Jesus, am I wrong?

I have been accused of using too much “logic” in my reasoning about Jesus (and the who and what) he is.Didn't God give us our logic for a reason? Would he gift us with abilities to logic and then give us truths that defy logic? Unfair, I say!

God in the flesh…….Because God is not a man, it is safe to say that God was “in” Jesus, or a part of Jesus.I've heard it said of me that I look just like my mother (my mother is dead and resting in the Lord) – they say, “Mandy, you are your mother in the flesh!” What they are meaning, of course, is that we look so much a like.Could this be…[Read more]