Quote (heaven @ May 28 2007,11:36)Copy (to your computers memory) the part of a post you are replying to (select the text and then go to “edit” > “copy” or hit the “CTR” and “C” keys. Then click the “Quote” button. In the second window (where the quote is), you delete all the content (the whole quoted post) and then paste in that which you have in…[Read more]

Ya, that didn't work now did it? ha! OK, I'll keep playing with it….

Quote (heaven @ May 28 2007,11:26)You can also copy (to memory) the part of a post you are replying to and then click the “Quote” button and in the second window where the quote is, you delete all the content and then paste in that which you have in your computer's memory.OK, test

1 Cor. 2:11″For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? IN THE SAME WAY no one knows the thoughts of God except the spirit of God.”

Actually, I just read the passage and God then likens his firstborn of Israel to the firstborn son of Pharaoh. Hmmm? I wonder what this means?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 28 2007,08:33)Hi not3, The same is used of Israel”Exodus 4:22And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:Being the monogenes son begotten of God alone defines the glory of Christ.No where is Israel said to be begotten though, right? Is there a difference, then, between Israel…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 28 2007,08:35)Hi not3, Yes. And Christ is the second son, not Cain.You'll have to elaborate on what you mean by the second son?

There is only one way to see Jesus and that is as the only Son of God.Jesus was “promised” this is true.  God promised Abrahma that his offspring (seed/conceived children) would be as many as the sands.  Jesus is the promised child of God.Was Jesus only God's Son *after* the resurrection?

Any concordance only reflects how the translators have translated the manuscripts. They are not dictionaries or lexicons.*****************Ah. Thanks for pointing this out.

It does not say that Adam was the firstborn of God because that is reserved soley for the Son of God who is the Christ.Firstborn is reserved for Jesus because being born of God is the greatest message to us that God could ever send.1 John 4:9This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only begotten Son into the world that we…[Read more]

Does such a question relate if Adam was drawn from soil enlivened by the breath of God?**********************Hmmm? I guess it wouldn't. However Adam went on to produce after his own “kind.”

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 28 2007,07:43)Quote (Not3in1 @ May 28 2007,07:38)Prophesy – yes!  Did the spirit son have a name?  Where does the OT tells us what his name is?  Can we see that his name was the “Word” or the “Logos” before he was born?Isaiah talks a lot about how God's arm “will” bring about salvation, as if the arm is not yet ex…[Read more]

Matthew 1:38″I am the Lord's servant, ” Mary answered. “May it be to me as you have said,” Then the angel left her.This is the moment that God's Son came down from heaven.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 28 2007,07:37)Hi not3, Many use this same argument to deny Christ is even the true son of God.Of course that is not my belief. But that does go to show you that no matter what we present here, it can be taken in at least two different ways! All we can do is try to see it from the other's point of view. Possibly we…[Read more]

Prophesy – yes! Did the spirit son have a name? Where does the OT tells us what his name is? Can we see that his name was the “Word” or the “Logos” before he was born?Isaiah talks a lot about how God's arm “will” bring about salvation, as if the arm is not yet existent. It talks about the tender shoot “growing up before him” – did the spirit…[Read more]

There is a common Hebrew and Aramaic idiom that when God is the author of something, the Jews spoke of it as “coming from God,” “coming from heaven,” “coming down from heaven,” etc. God said in Malachi that he would “open the windows of heaven and pour out a blessing,” and today we still use the word “Godsend” for a for a blessing that comes at…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 27 2007,17:56)The problem you have is there is nothing in these scriptures that indicate he “”would be”, it is very plain that he “was and is”!WJ,You say that scripture does not indicate that Jesus “would be” but that he “was and is.” Scripture speaks of Jesus as the Son of God who was born of Mary. Scripture also…[Read more]

Ha – well, I tried to “bold” the part I wanted to stress. So much for getting the buttons down. At any rate, LEVI WAS STILL IN THE BODY OF HIS FATHER.How was he in the body of his Father? How was the Word “with” God?

Quote (942767 @ May 27 2007,10:45)John 1      1:1In the beginning was the Word (Logos, from Strong's Concordance: “embodies a conception or idea” and the Word(Logos) was with God(these two parts of the verse just indicate that God had and idea or a plan), and the Word was God(and whatever the idea, it was Theos (God)).Here is a passage that de…[Read more]

I think 94 is trying to give us definitions from Strong's to better our understanding (thanks, 94). You know, kinda like you did in the Gennao thread, remember Nick? This shows that words can lend themselves to other interpretations.