Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 20 2009,15:36)Hi not3, So God is the Holy Spirit? So how does the Holy Spirit help us to pray to God?Romans 8:26, 27In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groans that words cannot express. 27And he who searches our…[Read more]

Hi Nick,Quote So the spirit that enlivened him was always only the Holy Spirit? That means he was not a man-how can us mudmen follow him? Was Mary not really his mother though he called her such?Oh sure, now you want to give Mary her due when it is convenient with your doctrine.   I've never understood this theory that Jesus has to be just like…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 20 2009,14:35)Hi Not3, So you assume being conceived of the Holy Spirit would also mean he was naturally filled with that Spirit? Why would you make such assumptions?John 3:6Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 20 2009,14:37)Hi not3, This thread is about the WAY of Jesus and you keep making it harder to follow him giving him a massive headstart.Forgive me for laughing but I don't believe in preexistence.You do.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 20 2009,14:25)Hi not3 . It is the book.The first time the Spirit is mentioned with Jesus from the time of his conception.Exactly…..from the time of his conception!

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 20 2009,14:19)Hi not3, He died like any ordinary man.Now like any reborn man he lives in God's spirit.Hmmm.I don't know even one man who died via crucifixion? Jesus didn't just die – he willingly 'gave up his spirit'. Ordinary men do not do this.If the fact that he died makes you believe that he was ordinary, why does…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 20 2009,13:37)Hi Not3, It does make you wonder if Jesus was always filled with the Spirit why it is mentioned at all after the Jordan in Lk4.What does scripture actual say happened at the Jordan?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 20 2009,12:58)Hi Not3, Do you think Jesus moved in some natural power that did not need the anointing of the Holy Spirit?Jesus lived, breathed, moved, and has his being because of God's holy spirit.Jesus is an offspring of holy Spirit.We are mud-men.You like to put Jesus in the same category as yourself – after all he is…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 20 2009,12:56)Hi not3, Back to the superman idea?What was Superman, anyway?The cape made him fly, right?Do you believe that the skin makes Jesus a man only? Inside he is the preexisting one —- right?

Quote (Cindy @ July 20 2009,09:44)Quote (Not3in1 @ July 20 2009,06:39)Douglas,I dig you.  I relate to a lot of what you are sharing.  Quite a few of my beliefs are not popular here either.  But it's nice to hear various perspectives, imo.More please!Love,MandyMandy!  Are you kidding me?  He thinks that Christ will not return and we do not eith…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 20 2009,09:36)Hi not3,God is not just His Holy Spirit. He was in heaven where Jesus told us to pray to Him while Jesus was filled with His Spirit.Being fathered by the Spirit of God still made him an ordinary man and did not fill him with God's SpiritYou say, “Being fathered by the Spirit of God still made him an ordinary…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 20 2009,09:20)Hi not3, Stitching two truths together does not necessarily make another truth.So tell us of the fruit of 30 years compared with three?Hi Nick,Men have constantly wanted Jesus to “prove” who he was/is. You are no different in your desire to link Jesus' fruit with his evidence of holy Spirit. You don't need…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 20 2009,11:37)Nick,Neither was there any shown with John. In fact, I would say that John shown even less fruit but he was filled from the womb.  You do not hold John to the same test of evidence of an existing Spirit…why?I can hear Nick pondering over this one….{{{ponder, ponder}}}

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 20 2009,07:25)Hi not3, So by inference you came to this conclusion? So show us the fruit of those 30 years.Nick,You make me laugh. We draw most of what we know by inference, bro. What you believe about the Jordan is not from scripture, we have all seen that here. You have been unsuccessful at proving your point…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 20 2009,07:00)Hi Not3, Where is the Holy Spirit shown to be given to Jesus earlier than the Jordan and what fruit do you see? Is not a birthright a promised inheritance?God is Spirit.God is Jesus' father.

Quote (kerwin @ July 19 2009,21:30)Quote (Not3in1 @ July 18 2009,11:12)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 28 2009,10:17)Hi LU, He agreed to come submitting to the will of the Father so they had the unity that a faithful servant has with his Lord.But from the Jordan he was endowed with the Spirit of God empowering him to will and to do,Nick,Your theories on…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 18 2009,16:32)Hi not 3, Was he not a real man but more of a superman?He is a son, we are like Moses – faithful servants.

Douglas,I dig you. I relate to a lot of what you are sharing. Quite a few of my beliefs are not popular here either. But it's nice to hear various perspectives, imo.More please!Love,Mandy

Quote (amosbug @ July 15 2009,03:06)Quote (Cindy @ July 13 2009,14:09)Hello amosbug!   I am really very happy for you, that you have found the Lord.  How you were Baptized makes a difference in your life, though.  Were you laid Hands on, and did you receive the Holy Spirit?  That is very important.  We came out of the Catholic Church and I do symp…[Read more]

PS: The rapture films of the 70's scared the sh*t out of me (and still do)!!!!!