Quote (martian @ June 12 2007,14:32)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 12 2007,14:05)David wrote:No, I do realize God is called Father.  Of course, he's not a father just exactly as humans are.  But it's a word he uses to describe himself so we limited humans can understand.**********************************************************David,If you do not believe t…[Read more]

Nick, tell me how many years I will have to study the Word to be able to pluck just the right scripture out of my head…….Great passages in Eph and Luke!

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 12 2007,10:01)Hi not3,' begotten ' is not closely related to monogenes.John and Peter saw the glory of the monogenes Son on the mountain, the glory that he had had with the Father and wanted to have again.Are you sure?  Could it be that God glorified him temporarily (because the glory obviously faded) so that he could be…[Read more]

David wrote:No, I do realize God is called Father. Of course, he's not a father just exactly as humans are. But it's a word he uses to describe himself so we limited humans can understand.**********************************************************David,If you do not believe that God is a true Father, then I'm afraid I have lost all hope in trying…[Read more]

I just said this in another thread, but it fits nicely here:If religion is that set of dogmatic truths, moral laws, and ritual practices, which human beings engage in, in order to have the proper relationship with God, then (imho) Jesus is the most anti-religious figure in all of history.

Wow.  I'm certainly glad you brought this thread up again, Nick.  Now maybe newcomers will see what will happen to them if they do NOT say they believe in the council of Chalcedon.Watch out LM!So far Nick has been cast to the outer circle with the right hand of fellowship denied him.  And worse yet, I have been cast out of the family all to…[Read more]

Quote (lamontre @ June 12 2007,10:06)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 12 2007,09:39)Quote (lamontre @ June 12 2007,08:27)And if God has a son He is  in nature?Each after his own kind, is I believe God's law.LM,Regarding “each after his own kind” -God/God = God (not possible because there is only One God)Mary/God = Divine ManFully both/no mix/fake…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 12 2007,09:59)Hi not3, So the divine loving nature revealed through Christ was that of God within him.God's Spirit within him – yes – I believe this is true.

Quote (charity @ June 12 2007,12:30)Hi MandyI have a very strong firm faith in God,In my heart, I am convinced that I am doing what I feel is the will of God for me to do.God knows the Intensions of my heart; they are not hidden from himBy grace I stand only, guilty until found innocent until justified?But how can I judge my brother/sister? And…[Read more]

Hi Nick,Yes, this is very close to what I believe as well. God did live in Jesus the way you live in your sons…..AND….due to receiving holy Spirit without measure, God was “in” Jesus working his glorious purposes. I think we are saying the same thing, yes?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 11 2007,18:44)Hi not3, Is 53 does not describe glory.Jesus has glory as the begotten Son of God! He has to be born before he can receive that glory.

Quote (charity @ June 11 2007,18:25)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 11 2007,16:15)Hi Charity,Do you think that Peter was full of pride, for instance?  What about when he was locked away in prison or standing before the courts?  Surely those instances didn't call for pride but were more of humiliation?  I don't know….Do you think the gospels were wr…[Read more]

Hi Gene,Welcome!

Quote (lamontre @ June 12 2007,08:27)And if God has a son He is in nature?Each after his own kind, is I believe God's law.LM,Regarding “each after his own kind” -God/God = God (not possible because there is only One God)Mary/God = Divine ManFully both/no mix/fake conception/non scriptural = incarnation…..God in human flesh.Mix of both God and…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 11 2007,16:56)Hi not3, Because your son of God is not a glorious monogenes Son of God but only a son of the union of man and God.Oh, he's glorious alright. But not until he is born!

2 Peter 2:2,3Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepurte. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and theie destruction has not been sleeping.Creeds = stories made up by men.2 Timothy 4:3.4For the time will come…[Read more]

Hi Charity,Do you think that Peter was full of pride, for instance? What about when he was locked away in prison or standing before the courts? Surely those instances didn't call for pride but were more of humiliation? I don't know….Do you think the gospels were written by false prophets?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 11 2007,14:47)Hi, Those who would make salvation a black and white affair do not know our God. We have a gospel to preach and it is the way of Jesus but God is not as harsh as men would paint Him. God is love and He loves to show mercy.Mercy even triumphs over judgement. The world looks at sin but God knows we are all…[Read more]

Why is it such a temptation to take Christ out of the realm of US and our nature? Why does he have to be so apart from us. Some make him God. Some make him 1/2 and 1/2 of two natures. Some make him a preexistent person who has lived before.Why can't he just be the Son of the living God? The Messiah who was foretold to come?

Quote (lamontre @ June 11 2007,14:40)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 11 2007,14:21)Quote (lamontre @ June 11 2007,10:32)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 11 2007,10:26)Quote (lamontre @ June 11 2007,09:10)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 11 2007,09:01)Does this mean because I strive to please God and my sister does not – that I have a greater gift of faith than she?  HmmmmYou…[Read more]