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    I also noticed that CB's post is now under “guest – unregistered” ? Possibly he decided to leave and than came back as a guest?

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    Quote (Guest @ June 16 2007,23:34)not3in1Quote Listen, it's confusing OK.  You cannot have it both ways.  Either you want Jesus to be God or you don't.  To Thomas, “God” meant the Father.  He was a Jew, and there are no records ANYWHERE of Jews believing that Jesus was God (meaning, the Father).  If you know of such a record, please direct me to i…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 17 2007,06:50)Hi CB, You say”Joh 10:33  The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. Jesus could have said to the high priest, “I wasn't blaspheming, you misunderstood me, I am not claiming to be God.” But He didn't correct…[Read more]

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    Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 16 2007,11:14)Hi Not3,I think what WJ and CB are arguing here is that there are natural interpretations (i.e those supported by the grammar and context of the passage), and then there are those that are forced (i.e. made to conform to doctrinal axioms, in spite of the grammar and context). With regard to the John 20:28…[Read more]

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    Quote (Cult Buster @ June 15 2007,22:04)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 15 2007,13:31)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 14 2007,18:54)You are reading the most trusted and sure record there is that Jews believed that Jesus is God and yet not the Father.WJ, Humor me, just for a moment.Because there is no other record in the Bible of a Jew believing anyone else…[Read more]

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    Quote (lamontre @ June 15 2007,12:01)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 14 2007,12:49)And there is no escaping that you hold your interpretations and I have mine.  Who is right?  You?  Of course.Thank you….I agree. :):DI'm glad you have a sense of humor! We need more humor around here!

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 14 2007,18:54)You are reading the most trusted and sure record there is that Jews believed that Jesus is God and yet not the Father.WJ, Humor me, just for a moment.Because there is no other record in the Bible of a Jew believing anyone else but the Father is God….and because Thomas supposedly called Jesus God…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 14 2007,18:34)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 14 2007,18:28)To the Jews and God-fearing Gentiles of the day, there was only One God, and that God was the FATHER of Abraham.Being the good Jew that Thomas was, if he referred to Jesus as “God,” then he was calling him the God of Abraham!  He was calling him the Father.Wow, I can…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ June 14 2007,18:17)This, Michael being another name for Jesus, it's almost as if there's a handbook out there that says: “JW's are incorrect because they believe Michael is another name given to Jesus.” This is something that very rarely comes up in our lives. It's mentioned hardly ever, except in places like this.It may not come…[Read more]

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    Oh, I don't “forsake the gathering together…” – I don't believe this has to be in a church, David. I gather with like-minded believers all the time. I gather here on HeavenNet. I gather on the phone with friends all over the state. I gather and chat with people I am ministering to who want to study and fellowship. I pray on the phone with…[Read more]

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    Oh, gotcha!

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    To the Jews and God-fearing Gentiles of the day, there was only One God, and that God was the FATHER of Abraham.Being the good Jew that Thomas was, if he referred to Jesus as “God,” then he was calling him the God of Abraham! He was calling him the Father.Wow, I can see how the oneness doctrine got started now…..

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    Thanks, David.The activities I remember as a kid were singing in the choirs and having parts in Christmas plays; of course Easter was always a bit deal! :) As I got older, youth group was tons of fun! We went on mission trips (Mexico and Jamaica). We went street witnessing and had tons of actvities going on all the time. As an adult, I really…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 16 2006,04:27)Hi Mercy, Well done. Be strong. The pastor made no effort to answer the serious questions you asked or to prove from scripture that what they teach is berean. Denominations are at best divisions, powerful and self serving human organisations, who, if they were part of the body of Christ have cut themselves…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 02 2007,05:52)Isa 46:9Remember the former things of old: for *I am God, and there is none else*; I am God, and *there is none like me*, How can this be t8, seeing Jesus is the “exact representation of his substance” and the “Express Image of the invisible God”?When my husband and I first met, I owned a little antique…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 14 2007,13:03)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 14 2007,12:39)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 13 2007,08:50)And later on Thomas confirmed this by saying…”My Lord and MY God”!If God is One, and God is the Father, when Thomas said, “…and my God.”  Did he really say, “….and my Father.”?not3Look for yourself and judge for…[Read more]

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    And there is no escaping that you hold your interpretations and I have mine. Who is right? You? Of course.Anyway, you wanted to know how other's could possibly miss your interpretation – I gave you one idea.To me, this passage of scripture when taken in context and as it is given – simply – it describes beautifully Jesus' position with the…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 13 2007,08:50)And later on Thomas confirmed this by saying…”My Lord and MY God”!If God is One, and God is the Father, when Thomas said, “…and my God.” Did he really say, “….and my Father.”?

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    Quote (charity @ June 14 2007,09:43)Facing up to we all need to evolve into the new creationSome have more hair than others brother?HeeHee – Charity – you have quite the little personality on you!

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 14 2007,09:48)Hi not3 1Cor 15″ 47The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.”compareylt”  47The first man out of the earth, earthy; the second man the Lord out of heaven; “nasb”47The first man is (A)from the earth, (B)earthy; the second man is from heaven.”niv”47The first man was of…[Read more]

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