Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 19 2007,10:13)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 19 2007,10:01)Hi W, So by your logic applied to scripture Christ must be the God of the OT? Then who is the Son of God?Zexh 7:11But they refused to hearken, and pulled away the shoulder, and stopped their ears, that they should not hear. Matt 13:15For this people's heart is…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 19 2007,09:59)Interesting choice of scripture.Do you think YHWH chcanged his mind when he said..Isa 45:22,23Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other.By MYSELF I have sworn…..So now he says look to a mere man (your Jesus) and be saved?He said there is no other!Has he…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 19 2007,09:59)Why didnt John nor Jesus rebuke Thomas? Why didnt John explain that he meant the Father?No one rebuked Thomas because Thomas didn't call Jesus God! Remember, you were not there. My theory could be correct. And it doesn't matter anyway if my theory is correct, there are plenty of plain and clear…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 19 2007,07:37)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 19 2007,07:11)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 19 2007,04:38)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 15 2007,11:47)Hi W, Was God pierced?psst God does not have a body, and is invisible, and cannot die. You need to reexamine your evidence.You will find the one who died was the Son of…[Read more]

Isaiah 45:22,23Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other.By MYSELF I have sworn….. Myself=meMe=II=the speakerWas Jesus speaking through God in Isaiah? Or before the incarnation, did they take turns speaking to one another within the same being? Can you imagine if they interupted eachother?

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 19 2007,05:41)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 19 2007,04:05)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 17 2007,17:29)Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 17 2007,16:52)I am sure that they considered Yeshua to be YHWH, but not the person of the Father. I am sure that they considered the Holy Spirit to be “God”, a person but neither Father and Son. I am…[Read more]

God is not a man.God's Son is a man.God is spirit and gave his spirit without measure to his Son (makes sense). We also have access to this divine nature through the same spirit.Is God in our flesh because his spirit dwells in us?

This message cuts me to the soul. I have asked that Tim2 love me, however, because he has refused me into his family – I have responded by not loving him. I've even belittled and teased Tim2. Well, I beg forgivness and I shall do it no longer. Tim2, please forgive me? I will try to respond with love first, and with my thoughts second. This…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 18 2007,11:40)Hi,The witness God wants us to show in the world is that of love. Human religion, with it's harsh legalism, gives God an undeserved bad name. We are loved and forgiven and our lives here should show that peace and joy that flows from this. Likewise the extraordinary tolerance God has allowed us should be…[Read more]

Quote (charity @ June 17 2007,20:50)Quote (Guest @ June 16 2007,00:14)Hello David. You really cannot ignore the following bombshell.                                              Quoted From:http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%2….m                           “THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESS A DAUGHTER OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCHThis Satanic society used Cat…[Read more]

Whoever is interested in adding to this thread of looking at each book of the NT to see if there is a “shift” in the NT believers hearts and minds to believe that Jesus is God – the second person of the Trinity – feel free to contribute on the NEW TOPIC thread: The New Testament, Book by Book.Let's stick to Matthew and work our way to Rev. I…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 17 2007,21:17)Not3,It seems to me like you have made your mind up about Yeshua and you don't really want to face up to any biblical facts that conflict with your creature-Jesus supposition. He did invoke a paradigm shift in the minds of his followers. Their writings bear this out.Isaiah,The “facts” that are presented are a…[Read more]

Quote (Cult Buster @ June 17 2007,18:03)Hi Not3in1How do you think the Jews understood the following about their God?Isa 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Hi CB,It…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 17 2007,16:52)It's quite clear to me that Yeshua facilitated a paradigm shift in the thinking of His disciples.Jesus facilitated no such “shift.”Jesus pointed to his Father as God in all situations and circumstances. Even after he was raised from the dead he said to Mary, “….I go to my Father and to yours. To my God and…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 17 2007,16:52)I am sure that they considered Yeshua to be YHWH, but not the person of the Father. I am sure that they considered the Holy Spirit to be “God”, a person but neither Father and Son. I am sure that they continued to have only One God above them.I don't follow you.They believed God to be the Father only. To say…[Read more]

I recently read part of the the new book out by the Pope. He said that the “historical” Jesus portrait in the gospels has been veiled by traditions of men……very interesting indeed (especially from a Catholic)!

Quote (chosenone @ June 16 2007,13:27)Look at these scriptures of part of Gods creation:Isaiah 45, 6-7.  I am Ieue Alueim, and there is none else.                      Former of light and creator of darkness,                      Maker of good and creator of evil.                      I, Ieue Alueim, made all of these things.                    …[Read more]

94, think of this – Jesus ate with sinners. He was invited into their homes and he accepted the invitation. We don't have any record of Jesus correcting any of them, do we? He ate with them and *probably* showed them by example the love of God. I encourage you to do the same. It is most difficult to do this with children, I understand – as…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 17 2007,13:06)Hi Not3,You've asked a sincere question and I will answer candidly. I think it's patent from the John 20:28 text that Thomas was addressing Yeshua as the God. There really is no other plausible explanation. Thomas was evidently persuaded that Yeshua was YHWH, yet not the person of the Father. And you're right,…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 17 2007,08:32)Hi not3 You say” Jesus only became God a few hundred years after he went to be with the Father.” Can you expand on what you mean here?Oh, hi Nick – I didn't mean anything weird – ha – I just meant that the creeds made Jesus God and they weren't created until hundreds of years after Jesus had already joined…[Read more]