Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 27 2007,10:10)“somatikos” – meaning “corporeally” or “physically”I know this may be a stupid question, but does this mean that Jesus was only filled with Deity “physically”?When he died (physically), did he lose that fullness of deity?I have to run my son to baseball, but thanks for the greek words, I'm gonna have to look…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 27 2007,12:49)not3in1..> the idea of Jesus being the (only begotten) son may not be exatly right. let me explain the word begotten, it implies to derive from, as Jesus certainly did, however so has everything, everything is begotten or derived from God, Jesus was uniquely begotten of God but so was Adam and many other…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ June 27 2007,09:47)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 27 2007,08:20)I'm glad we get to eat in heaven…..I love nachos!  I wonder if there will be nachos in Paradise? Hi not3in1,Nope, just angelfood cake. Tim That's a bummer because I've never been a fan of the angel food cake. I mean, come on! If your going to have cake, it needs to…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 27 2007,02:50)Jesus was adopted as a son of God just like we are, because it is imposible For God to recreate Himself because he it is that composes all life He another words can and is in all and through all things,and He was certanly in our Lord Jesus by the Chrestos or holy spirit which is the Anointing.WE are…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 27 2007,06:21)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 26 2007,17:49)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2007,15:58)Hi not3,Why should the tent in which Christ lived alter him? He is the same yesterday, today and forever-and he no longer is flesh.You say Jesus is no longer flesh….But after the resurrection he was flesh and bones.  He even had a…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 27 2007,05:39)If the term Son of God refers to the physical conception of Jesus then it is not a pure term.I agree. However, Jesus is not *just* a son of God (like many others are); Jesus is the only begotten Son of God.No other “son” of God is begotten! Right?

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 26 2007,21:12)It's not quite that simple Not3.Yes, it is!Yes, it is!Yes, it is! You just like making things difficult.I'm kidding ya.I'll be back later tonight to address your posts. Thanks for the information and I'll be pondering what you've said today.

Quote (TimothyVI @ June 26 2007,23:41)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 26 2007,15:48)Tim, you say that Mary provided half and “by whatever means that He used, God is the Father of Jesus.”  Why not just believe that he provided what was needed (sperm)?  It doesn't have to be HIS sperm – is this what possibly offends you?  I don't know…..  But there doe…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ June 26 2007,23:32)Hi Not3in1,Here is the definition of conceive in the Strongs concordance.1) to seize, take: one as prisoner2) to conceive, of a womana) metaph. of lust whose impulses a man indulges3) to seize for one's selfa) in a hostile sense, to make (one a permanent) prisoner4) to take hold together with one, to assist,…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ June 26 2007,23:20)But to believe fully as you seem to, Mary would no longer have been a virgin.Oh, my dear brother! Thank you for clearing this up for me. I see your reluctance to believe God provided the sperm if you believe that would not make Mary a virgin.Listen, God and Mary did not have to copulate for God (as Jesus'…[Read more]

The corner is quite comfortable tonight…… I've been here a time or two before, so it's familiar enough.Well, that is true that John the Baptist had the spirit but was a sinful man. How about this…..is there a difference between the *gift* of the holy Spirit which John had and the indwelling of the holy Spirit which Jesus had?Regarding…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 26 2007,16:30)not3in1 .> what i believe, is Jesus never preexisted as a life form before him beining born as a flesh and blood human. i know there are scriptures that can be taken that way but to me he was in the plan of God before the foundations of the world. Peter seams to put it that way when he said that christ was…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2007,16:18)Hi not3, Why?Did God share the glory of his begettal with man?I'm not sure what you mean, Nick?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2007,15:58)Hi not3,Why should the tent in which Christ lived alter him? He is the same yesterday, today and forever-and he no longer is flesh.You say Jesus is no longer flesh….But after the resurrection he was flesh and bones. He even had a digestive system – he ate with the boys!When he was taken up to heaven and…[Read more]

Humor me.With my ideas on Jesus being a true and literal son of God, he would naturally be born with God's divine essence. But because he was not God, himself, but God's Son – he was able to be tempted as we are.The reason he did not sin was not that he *couldn't* sin, but that God's spirit was with him from birth. Those who are born *of* God do…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2007,16:25)Hi Is 1.18, He was born of Mary and shared her estate.He was tempted in all ways but never once sinned.God was with him guiding him and he could never have a better Dad.Really, Nick, I allow God to guide me but I still sin.There has to be more to it than this?

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 26 2007,16:38)Who laid the foundation of the Earth?The heavens are the work of whose hands?According to the writer of Hebrews and God the Father it's Jesus.The Father laid the foundations with his own hand.According to God the Father – the creator is Jesus?Are you saying that Jesus is the Father?

God addressed Jesus as “Lord” because he made him Lord! Whew, that one was easy! The Hebrews passage is not so easy. All I can really offer is that the beginning of Hebrews is confusing to me. I've done some varied reading on it and most non-Trinitarians agree that confusing and there are reasons why the one passage that is applied to God is…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2007,16:12)Hi not3,Christ was truly physically fathered by God through the Spirit . He was just like us-with half perfect Chromosomes.Son of David.Son of Man Son of God. But also son of God before he came.You had me until the very last sentence was tacked on.I'm afraid you cannot have it both ways.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2007,16:01)Hi not3, Paul lived in a tent of flesh.2Cor 5″ 1For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. 2For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven: 3If so…[Read more]