Quote (kejonn @ June 30 2007,23:54)So in the end, it all comes down to Jesus. Who is he? We know the rudimentary facts: Son of God not the Father, Word of God, Lamb of God, Prince of Peace, Lord of lords (which was also said of Yahweh and people avoided addressing that when pointed out), Mighty God (again, Yahweh was called Mighty AND Almighty in…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ June 30 2007,23:54)So back to you statements here Not3in1. You speak of “another gospel” and “another Jesus” but let me ask you this: what about the Trinity takes away Jesus or God's message? What lessens the sacrifice made by Jesus on the cross? How does any of it lessen the impact of John 3:16?KJ,Your answer – EVERYTHING.Let me…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ June 30 2007,23:54)My assumption then? People are scared of the answer.KJ,Don't assume too much. The reason I say this is because if folks are like me, I have a busy schedule. There are times when I have full afternoons to endulge in the forum, but there are many more times when I read a post and think to myself, “I need to…[Read more]

If you want an easy answer, I will give it to you.There is a Trinity teaching.There is no Trinity spoken of in the Bible.I know a man who has offered $10,000 to anyone who can show him where in the Bible the scriptures speak of a triune God. Thousands have tried, but the man still has his money!!You must seek God earnestly. The answers you want…[Read more]

Your pop-ups are obnoxious, WJ.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 30 2007,10:03)Quote (TimothyVI @ June 30 2007,05:07)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 30 2007,05:04)Nick, I agree.  When you read the Word day in, and day out, you begin to “hear” things that do not sound scriptural such as:God the SonSecond person, (third person of God)IncarnationPreexistenceDual natureFully Man and Fully…[Read more]

Chap,I would not of spent the last 5 years of my life studying the Trinity if I didn't think it was important to choose it, or discard it.We all have to answer the question that the Lord asked Peter, “Who do you say that I am?”Each of these groups answer that question differently: Trinitarians, Unitarians, Librarians, JW's………..1.…[Read more]

Quote (acertainchap @ June 30 2007,08:11)I was simply attempting to prove the Trinity's existence, which belief or disbelief in I might add, is not essential to Salvation.You know, I've heard this time and time again – understanding the Trinity and either accepting it or rejecting it has nothing to do with salvation?Is this really true?Am I the…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 30 2007,13:25)Quote (kejonn @ June 30 2007,13:23)Quote (acertainchap @ June 30 2007,11:29)So you don't believe in the trinity….then why does the Bible speak of God in plural? If you give me a good reason then I will quit believing this issue.ACC, don't just believe one way or the other based on someone's posts. They may…[Read more]

Quote (acertainchap @ June 30 2007,08:45)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 30 2007,08:41)Quote (kejonn @ June 30 2007,08:36)Not3in1,The reason I'm asking for Trinitarians only is because I do not want this thread to denigrate into whether or not the Trinity is true or not. That thread already exists.By posting this thread, I'm challenging Trinitarians to…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ June 30 2007,08:36)Not3in1,The reason I'm asking for Trinitarians only is because I do not want this thread to denigrate into whether or not the Trinity is true or not. That thread already exists.By posting this thread, I'm challenging Trinitarians to rethink whether or not this is a necessary belief. I think that, like my pastor,…[Read more]

Since when should we exclude all believers from participating in certain threads? I know of several really good Trinitarian sites that you may want to visit? Also, Tim2 belongs to a great Trinitarian site and he left the website on one of the threads.Having a wide opinion base has only helped me understand why people believe or not believe in…[Read more]

Another thread……you've been busy Chap!

Wow – a new Trinity thread! Can't wait to check it out tonight.Chap,Hi. Thanks for starting this thread. I can tell you that there are NO scriptures in the bible that “prove” the Trinity is true. There was one a long time ago……..1 John 5:7 that would have cinched the deal for the cause of the Trinity doctrine……..but then it was…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ June 30 2007,05:07)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 30 2007,05:04)Nick, I agree.  When you read the Word day in, and day out, you begin to “hear” things that do not sound scriptural such as:God the SonSecond person, (third person of God)IncarnationPreexistenceDual natureFully Man and Fully GodGod the Holy SpiritWord GodAnd the list could…[Read more]

Nick, I agree. When you read the Word day in, and day out, you begin to “hear” things that do not sound scriptural such as:God the SonSecond person, (third person of God)IncarnationPreexistenceDual natureFully Man and Fully GodGod the Holy SpiritWord GodAnd the list could go on and on……

Quote (kejonn @ June 30 2007,03:02)In the end, it has so much to do with how we classify Jesus because otherwise we will never really have anything that will sway die-hard Trinitarians.Amen.Sway not only Trinitarians, but the world……God is One, and there is not other.Jesus is a “other.”

KJ,Wow! You've read through 89 pages of the Trinity thread! That is so great! You are a seeker, that is for sure.Well, welcome! I hear myself in your first post……… I will look forward to hearing from you and what you have found over the years.You will find this is a great venue for challenging what you *think* you know! I love it…[Read more]

Something really neat happened to me tonight. We have been experiencing a lot of heavy rain in the Pacific Northwest today, at times, complete down-pours. Tonight, just before it started to let loose, I went outside on our deck. The sky was that yellow-orange color, the color the sky gets right before it dumps on you! It smelled fabulous, and…[Read more]

Quote (acertainchap @ June 29 2007,12:30)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 29 2007,12:20)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 29 2007,10:17)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 29 2007,09:27)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 29 2007,07:04)How am I mocking?By your “LOL” comment – that I obviously wasn't aware that the thread was about a “Trinitarian verse.”  I was just giving you a…[Read more]