Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 14 2007,19:38)Hi not3, Do you not mean conceived?Of course one has to be conceived before they are born. I just figured that some things could be implied between you and I – considering our lengthly intercourse on this topic.

Michaels – welcome!I encourage you to read through various threads here. We are a neat mix of believer's and you will enjoy hearing many views, I hope?I look forward to hearing from you as you share the truth that you know.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 14 2007,08:09)Hi KJ, Was he born with advantages over us?Can we follow him if so?Your previous post to this one has answered your own question!Yes – Jesus was born with advantages over us – he is the Son of God (literally). This is a clear advantage over common man.We will be adopted.Jesus already belongs.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 14 2007,16:34)Hi not3, Adam was truly a son of God, but had no DIVINITY. The sonship of Jesus goes back to the beginning.Adam was created.Jesus was BORN of incoruptable SEED.

And the virgin birth?Jesus' miraculous conception?Noth'en even special?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 14 2007,16:31)Hi not3, Speaking of the divinity of Jesus takes you back to your trinitarian roots. If you want other gods fine. But the fullness of deity was IN, not AS,  the son of God.Col2″9For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form,”Again, some non-Trinitarians speak too lowly of our Son of God and…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 14 2007,16:28)Hi not3, HmmmLk3'38Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.”Deut 14″1Ye are the children of the LORD your God: ye shall not cut yourselves, nor make any baldness between your eyes for the dead. “Yes, we are the children of God. We will be…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 14 2007,16:23)Hi not3, Are they human genes? Yes? Like Adam's? Yes. Yep just a man. Would you prefer he was a god or something inbetween.God is not a man.  God does not have human genes.Since you asked, I would prefer that Jesus be allowed to be who the scriptures say he is:  The SON of God.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2007,08:02)Hi not3, I believe that God has made it plain in scripture that Christ was a man exactly like us so we have no excuses and can follow him. He is truly SON OF MAN.  But he is also revealed as a being through whom God created the world. So ANY advantages that he had must have been shed before he partook of…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 13 2007,15:05)Hi,Jesus was conceived in Mary and the same word is used of the conception of John the baptist.Jesus is the Son of man, a man.So Mary's faulty genes through Adam contributed as well as perfect new genes from God. So as a man he was like us and damaged and vulnerable and weak in all the ways we are. The…[Read more]

Yes.God is Jesus' Father – literally!

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 14 2007,15:51)Hi not3, My opinion is irrelevant. Scripture repeatedly calls Jesus a man. 1Tim 2″5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; We should believe ScriptureI, for one, enjoy your opinion. Opinions help shape what scripture teaches us (along with God's spirit who teaches…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 14 2007,11:48)Hi not3, Do you think conception by the Spoirit did not produce a normal man? You have been trying to conserve the true meaning of conception and now you blow it away. Nick, seriously, do you believe that a “true” conception involving GOD ALMIGHTY would “produce” a mere man?You say that you believe in a…[Read more]

The “seed of Abraham” will be adopted.Jesus was born a son of God (not only was he born a son of God – he is the ONLY biological son of God). Jesus is not adopted.Ponder, ponder…………if Jesus wasn't a biological kid of God, he would need to be adopted, wouldn't he? No such thing is ever said of Jesus.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 14 2007,08:08)Hi not3, Scripture says he is a man and we should not argue with scripture. Acts 222Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:Scripture also tells us that Jesus…[Read more]

Kejonn,I'm very glad you are here.

HmmmmA preexistent son who had “come from heaven” as such, cannot be merely a MAN.I believe that both of our theories are flawed to some degree.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 14 2007,07:40)Hi not3, Yes. His origins are entirely another matter.So you say. I do not believe you can know someone without knowing where they have come from.But here we have agreed to disagree.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 13 2007,23:19)Hi not3, You too want to make Jesus a combination god/man?He is a MAN.Simple.My brother, it is not that simple. Nothing about Jesus was simple.Peter said that Jesus was the man from Nazareth. Peter also said that Jesus was the Son of the Living God. Peter believed that Jesus had come from God. These are…[Read more]

Quote (Laurel @ July 14 2007,02:20)WJ,Maybe this will  help: The Set-apart Spirit is the Spirit of truth. The truth will set you free.After we receive the gospel of salvation(the one made to Israel). we are sealed with the Set-apart Spirit of promise. (the promise made to Israel).So if the Spirit was a being like you claim, then the person of the…[Read more]