Jodi – please continue your thoughts on the Conception of Jesus HERE! I will also be answering from your Preexistent post here concerning the Conception ideas. If we keep it fairly organized, then others (and newcomers) will be able to find all the great information on Conception in one place.Thanks!

Hi Stu and welcome!I have a good friend who believes in Evolution and we have some lively conversations. There is “evidence” in both camps, depending on who's research you *choose* to believe.I believe it takes just as much faith to believe that we evolved as it takes to believe we are created.I say – pick your camp of choice.One camp comes with…[Read more]

Hi Isaiah,We probably agree on many points, but we've only discussed a few with one another. Remember that I cut my teeth on a Trinitarian pew! One of the reasons I saw more truth in the Unitarian view of God versus what I had grown-up with, is that most of the answers to the questions I had of my Trinitarian pastor's and friends, were based on…[Read more]

How do we keep the Passover? The church I grew up in would have “communion” once a month.

More on the Millenium please….anyone?If we are going to keep the Feast of the tabernacle during the Millenium, why not keep it now? This is interesting stuff! I will be reading in the OT where you have directing me – thanks Mrs.IM4Truth!

Hi Nick,I didn't say I was going to join, I just said that the “prime thing” of importance to me was who Jesus was/is. The JW's idea of who Jesus is seems based on implicit teaching, at best. Otherwise, they are great folks! The two ladies that visit me every now and then are wonderful. They seem to really have the fruit of the Spirit in…[Read more]

It's my “prime thing” with the JW's that come to visit me because it was a prime concern of Jesus'. That is, “Who do you say that I am?”Some say John the Baptist, some say Michael the Archangel……but what did the Father reveal to Peter explicitly? That Jesus was not those other people, but he was the Son of the Living God.I'm not up for a…[Read more]

Brother Ken, I actual said, “…we are going around in circles.”

Nick, in the Conception thread you are noted as saying:”Will you say Elizabeth did not naturally conceive a son?  Then since scripture uses the same word why do you say Mary did not conceive?” p.14And again you say,  “Jesus is the literal Son of God.” p.9Again, “He is the physical Son of God by the conception through the Holy Spirit in Mary.” p…[Read more]

Who knows?OK, Nick.

Within your post you highlight the differences between us and Jesus. There is a difference. Does that leave us with 2 types of “man” then? Group 1 – 2 sets of damaged genes (all of mankind)Group 2 – 1 damaged set and 1 perfect set of genes (Jesus ONLY)Good grief

Did Jesus become flesh any other way?

Mary conceived.

“Only a half set of perfect genes………he is a man.”OK, Nick.

OK.

Almost like Adam? Adam was created. Adam was also believed to be perfect or “very good” at least. After the fall, we no longer enjoyed that condition (thanks, Eve).Now that Jesus has a perfect, new set of genes given by the Father – is he different from you? Yes, indeed he is!He may have “appeared” as a human being – but he is not puny mankind…[Read more]

Do you think the Father views his Son differently than he views you (puny man)?God never said he was “Well pleased” with mankind – he said this of Jesus.We are puny. Jesus is the beloved Son of God Almighty.

Note the scripture does not say: Because Jesus was found to be an exact man, different in no way.Why did he “appear” to be a man? Because of his gender, and because he was a human being. After all, his mother was Mary (a human). However, things are not always as they “appear” are they? Inside of Jesus were the “perfect, new genes” of God…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 16 2007,12:49)Hi KJ, The monogenes Son was not eternal. He was a son as were the other sons present at the laying of the foundation of the earth He was the most important under God being an instrument for all creation. He had more to lose than any being under God. Yet he consented to come as a puny earthly, ignorant and…[Read more]

What you say is true. However, when you say “puny” you always refer to the MAN Jesus. Saying that we start out puny is one thing, but to say that as a man, Jesus remained puny is another.