Angels of the LORD speak from heaven, and yet we do not have any recorded words of the “glorious” spirit son of God?Messengers carried out God's work from heaven, and yet we do not have any recorded deeds of Jesus prior to his birth?At any rate, who are we to change the meaning of conception to fit our theology. Conception is conception (with is…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 28 2007,08:46)Hi not3, But would you suggest things happened THROUGH a being who did not even  exist?…….exist yet! Yes!

Nick, did Jesus speak any other words in the OT?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 27 2007,06:15)Quote (Laurel @ July 27 2007,02:41)Those who are ressurected will be in heaven for 1,000 years.Then, when the 1,000 years ends, Satan will be released on earth to decieve the nations of them who did not partake of the first ressurection. Those people will suffer and be judged.You do not want to be here in…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 27 2007,17:02)Hi not3, Surely the verse in Ps 2 must be spoken by Jesus?If so, would that be the only verse or are there others that you are aware of?

The Numbers passage is Moses complaining to the LORD about the grumblers in the camp. Basically, he was saying, “Hey, LORD, they're not my kids!” Ha! But I don't see how that relates to any conception we are speaking about surrounding Jesus.Regarding the Psalm – did Jesus ever reply? For that matter, if the preexistent Son of God is held in…[Read more]

Hi t8,Jesus is called the first and last, but in what way is he these titles?  Jesus is called God, but in what way is this title given to him?For me, if there is a way to align scripture with major themes that are clear and understandable, then I will opt for that explaination over quilting together a theology.Actually, there are very few…[Read more]

I don't know? What “type” of son is described in the gospels?Son of Man?Son of God?HmmmmAt any rate, enough of the silly questioning that leads to paths that go in circles…..

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 26 2007,18:57)Hi not3,Is Jesus a part of God and a part of Mary.What strange philosophy is this? Read about it in the gospels my brother!

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 26 2007,09:42)Hi not3, Are people in heaven?Who knows? Was Moses' body ever recovered? What about Enoch and even John (Jesus said he wanted him to remain “alive” until he returned. While he died in the flesh, if he is still “alive” somewhere – possibly he is in Heaven? Who really knows, right?).What I meant was that…[Read more]

Jesus is the Root and the Offspring of David.  How can this be?  Interesting…..  For me, this is one of the reasons I believe so strongly in the the literal sonship of Jesus.God is the Root of everything.Jesus is God's literal and biological Son.Jesus is a part of his Father, therefore he can be considered the “Root” of David.Jesus is a part of…[Read more]

Welcome back, WJ. I wondered where you were……

Hi Ciara,I'm with you!    I wish that I could speak to everyone who is in heaven!  Woudn't that be cool?  But, Jesus told us to pray to God, who is his Father and our Father.  So, the Father is the one to talk to!When Jesus comes back to the earth and we are united with him, we will get to talk with him at last – face to face!  What a happy day t…[Read more]

Hi SW – Welcome!I just added you to my prayer list! Seek the LORD and he will direct your paths…..Love to you and yours,Mandy

Nick, review pages 39 and 40 of this thread for our discussions on where we receive our spirits/or do we receive our spirits during conception. There you will find that I assert our spirits our given to us during conception, and you pose a question as if to agree (your MO), but review for your information.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 21 2007,23:36)Hi Not3,You say.”In another thread, Nick, you agreed that we do!”Can you show me this?Sure. It will take some time but it's on this thread.We were discussing literal conception and what we receive from our parents. You asked me if we received our “spirits” from our parents and I said, “Yes, or we wouldn't…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 22 2007,20:41)Hi, How odd it is to be the only one who shows Christ to be just a man on earth but a glorious being before he came.Those who agree he is a man on earth cannot seem to stomach the life he had with God first.  Those who agree about his glorious origins want him to be God on earth and cannot accept him as a…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 22 2007,08:14)Hi, The monogenes Son owes his existence to God alone.You might want to review your theology regarding conception.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 20 2007,19:37)Hi KJ, Outer man-visible FleshInner man-Monogenes Son of GodWithin him from the Jordan-God as Spirit.When we are conceived, do we also inherit our “inner man” or spirits from our parents?In another thread, Nick, you agreed that we do!Here you are saying that Jesus' “inner man” is the preexistent son of God…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ July 20 2007,19:32)Nick,Apologies if that rubbed you the wrong way. But your posts constantly emphasize that Yeshua was an ordinary, mere man. That is where one would get the idea that you focus more on Mary than God in the parental contribution. No man can be the biological son of God and Man and be ordinary though he may appear…[Read more]