Heavenly hosts are not conceived. Jesus was conceived. Clearly there is a difference between the sonship of the heavenly hosts and that of the ONLY Son of God.

A true, legitimate son (according to scripture) is one who inherits his Father's estate. The sons of God who are the heavenly hosts do not inherit anything…..they minister to those who will!  

Question to all,Where in scripture did God change the meaning of what conception meant, that we should have all these different ideas?Where in scripture did God change the meaning of what a son means, so that a son is no longer an offspring of two parents?Angels are sons, yes, but they will not inherit anything…….they minster to those who will…[Read more]

Quote (Jodi @ July 31 2007,06:40)Quote (Not3in1 @ July 31 2007,04:27)Did Jesus undergo a different type of conception process than we did?  Trinitarians would say so – they believe in the incarnation, which is not conception at all (thus denying the Son of God in the flesh).  Nick would say so – for his Jesus was a preexistent son who came down f…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 31 2007,06:47)God was truly the physical father of Jesus.What does this mean?

Wow…..the boards are going to be quiet with you gone for 6 weeks! Let's face it, you keep everything moving and shaking!

Nick, have a great vacation……you deserve it! I do believe that we wouldn't have “religion” if we didn't have “inference.”But the gospel…..is there room for inference?

Did Jesus undergo a different type of conception process than we did? Trinitarians would say so – they believe in the incarnation, which is not conception at all (thus denying the Son of God in the flesh). Nick would say so – for his Jesus was a preexistent son who came down from heaven only to don flesh through Mary (not a combination at all,…[Read more]

Bibli,Excellent homework and post – thank you!

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 28 2007,11:42)Hi not3, I cannot believe you seem to think that every human person, as Jesus was, does not exist as an individual but as a composite of their parents!!Nick, you crack me up! You are a Doctor, are you not? Do you not know the process of conception and what takes place? You have many children, do you not?…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 30 2007,19:02)Quote (Not3in1 @ July 30 2007,18:15)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 30 2007,17:59)Why did the 100 scholars of the NIV and the other 500 or so in all the other major translations sign off on it being “Theos”, with a big “G”. God?I did quote my source – it's the NIV STUDY BIBLE.not3Sorry! I didnt catch…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 30 2007,17:59)Why did the 100 scholars of the NIV and the other 500 or so in all the other major translations sign off on it being “Theos”, with a big “G”. God?I did quote my source – it's the NIV STUDY BIBLE.

Thanks for the clarification, I appreciate that.I wonder though, if the Spirit is uniting you and t8 in your unique views……what is the Spirit doing with the rest of us?  

You seem to think so as you are quoted below:”Certainly the BU view is currently popular here.”The BU's are a denomination.By saying that certain members show a “BU view” is to catagorize them in this denomination, imo. It's just not necessary, is all I'm saying. Besides, I don't see a whole lot wrong with the BU viewpoint. I do see quite a few…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 30 2007,14:58)Hi not3, Denominations are divisions.Yes, so please stop pointing them out.Has 94 or Adam announced their membership in the BU denomination? I am certainly not a member of this denomination but because some of my beliefs align with theirs, I have been accused of being a part of them. This should not be.

Adam,As you warned 94, I am also becoming weary of walking in circles…..Thank you for your post.  I wish we heard from you more often!  

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 30 2007,12:21)Hi, Certainly the BU view is currently popular here.Labeling does not promote unity, it only further divides.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 30 2007,12:25)Hi, Christadephians have some odd beliefs and it is worth checking them in the light of scripture. They do not believe Satan exists.Actually, they do believe that “satan” exists, but not in the form of a being.

Thanks for the chat, Nick. I always appreciate your willingness to keep things running here on HeavenNet. But I'm too tired today to go in circles.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 30 2007,08:31)Hi 94,David, and all the rest of creation, derives his existence originally through the work of the monogenes Son who was sent into the world.So Jesus is really the Father of the one whom he would be a future descendent of?Jesus did the “work” of creation?Nick, do you believe Jesus is God now?The LORD, who…[Read more]