Ken and KJ,We now have 2 “Sabbath” threads…..which one should we use?

Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 19 2007,14:23)I'm going to change this topic as I'm sure N31 will be responding Besides we can keep all the Sabbath….Questions (?) in one area instead all over the place I'm sure heaven is getting inpatient and I wouldn't blame him… thanks heaven.This cracks me up, I'm sorry.  Whenever a topic gets too hot for certain…[Read more]

Quote (Debra @ Aug. 19 2007,17:37)except when it comes to blowing out the candles and everyone shouts..HIP HIP HOORAY..I read somewhere that this is what was shouted from the people watching the Lions kill the Christians..Debra…..you're kidding right?

Quote (Laurel @ Aug. 19 2007,14:17)Not3,Why do you babble? Why do you poke fun at others? Why do you speak about things you do not practice? And especially why do you judge?You can make laughing faces all day long, you will not be laughing in the end.Again, Sis, I was merely trying to challenge your theories and teachings……apparently I struck…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 19 2007,14:11)Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 19 2007,13:48)Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 19 2007,07:49)There is a ball game on that I would want to watch but I'm not.  I could record it but I'm not!You may not be watching the ball game, but you are here posting on HeavenNet – which I'm sure is a pleasurable thing to do for you, maybe even a…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 19 2007,07:49)There is a ball game on that I would want to watch but I'm not. I could record it but I'm not!You may not be watching the ball game, but you are here posting on HeavenNet – which I'm sure is a pleasurable thing to do for you, maybe even a hobby of sorts? I don't know, however, it is certainly not a Sabbath…[Read more]

Ha……a dose of your own medicine brothers and sisters!  It doesn't taste very good, does it?   In that you both are feeling judged as to how you are keeping the Sabbath. Join the club! Many of us are feeling judged by you both. It doesn't feel very good to be judged by the Law, and yet that is what you are doing here by telling me and e…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 19 2007,01:55)Don't you want to obey your Father?No one here is righteous in their own right (nor through knowledge, or in deed). But we all need the covering of our Lord Jesus. We all need the Spirit to teach us truth. And we all want to obey our heavenly Father……or we wouldn't be here.Humility was a theme in Jesus'…[Read more]

OK,I'm starting to see the difference between Ken and Laurel's Commandment keeping….. This is very interesting to me. In the last few days I have been studying this out quite a bit. I see that the Law is to be obeyed in the most strict of measures in the OT (i.e.; baking what you need before the Sabbath and so on), to spiritual discernment,…[Read more]

Quote (Debra @ Aug. 17 2007,19:44)Hello ElaineSomething my great grandmother used to say. “Your damed if you do and your damed if you don't”.  The issue of should women be pastors of a church was a big one for me as I was attending a church with a female pastor who's husband was not a happy man. I didn't want to be disobedient or rebellious, but…[Read more]

Hi Debra!Ha…..I laughed when you said, “It's funny how many Atheist want to be friends with Christians.” I have found this to be true, too. Only the “friends” that I have had in my lifetime who say they don't believe in God…..really do believe in God and they are just mad at him. Go figure. They just need love and a non-judgemental…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 18 2007,05:40)Quote (Laurel @ Aug. 18 2007,03:28)No I was not yelling in caps, I was emphasizing the truth.Well may you have a blessed Sabbath, I need to get going and prepare for it.Love in our Messiah Y'shua and our Father in Heaven,LaurelWell can I nuke something to eat on the Sabbath?  How about take a walk is that…[Read more]

Quote (Laurel @ Aug. 18 2007,02:19)Not3,If Ken took a ride on his motorcycle to relax and enjoy the day, I do not see a problem with it. The view from a bike is awesome and when I'm on a bike I feel closer to Him than I do when in a car.LaurelSis,You may not see a problem with it, but I assure you that the Law of the Sabbath in the OT does.…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 18 2007,03:07)Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 17 2007,17:51)Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 17 2007,15:11)Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 17 2007,08:13)Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 17 2007,03:17)Birthday?  My flesh is dead. If I were to celebrate a birth- day I would celebrate my real birth-day.  The day I met the Lord Jesus Christ. Did Jesus have a “real” b…[Read more]

Are all traditions bad or pagen?I thought I would “bump” this topic and see if there is any interest in discussing what other's have found to be “pagen” in nature that we accept readily as TRADITION. I'd be interested to know sources of information claiming a tradition is pagen. Thanks.

HALLELUJAH Sisters!

Quote (Laurel @ Aug. 17 2007,16:45)Elain,I am probably the only person here who celebrated the Feasts. There are some thing I will not celebrate because they are “replacement feasts”, set forth by human beings who want us to forget who Israel is and are.I do not celebrate Easter, it replaces Passover. Passover is YHWH's appointed time.I do not…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 17 2007,15:11)Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 17 2007,08:13)Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 17 2007,03:17)Birthday?  My flesh is dead. If I were to celebrate a birth- day I would celebrate my real birth-day.  The day I met the Lord Jesus Christ. Did Jesus have a “real” birthday?  He certainly did.I think to downplay our birthdays is to not give Go…[Read more]

Thanks, KJ.Let's keep track: Jesus, Yashua, Yeshua, Yahushua….are there others? Good grief. Clearly there is some debate as to which one of these is correct. Why can't anything be simple?

I went to the website Laurel recommended and cut the following:If we were under the law, the only way we could possibly be saved is if we NEVER SINNED. Where is only ONE who 'never sinned'. He was born under the law…yet without sin Galatians 4:4 – But when the fullness of the time had come, YAHWEH sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under…[Read more]