Laurel,What you are saying is making perfect sense to me. I will continue to study.I am willing to be wrong about a lot of things. I only learned fairly recently (back in 2003) that the Trinity wasn't true. So, I've been on a fast-track of truth-revealing time with my Father. I expect that I will learn about the Sabbath as well, now that I…[Read more]

Laurel,Many, many thanks for this information.  I will prayerfully consider everything and meditate on these scriptures.  I appreciate you teaching free from personal feelings as to my state of mind or heart.  I appreciate that very much – the seed will be planted in my heart.Love to you,Mandy

Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 20 2007,13:41)You don't want to know the true Sabbath you want to argue to keep your sabbath.This is what is sad, Ken – I don't even keep a Sabbath right now. Not because, as you say, I want to keep my own day or keep it in my own way……I don't know when or how to keep the Sabbath! I am TRYING to learn about the true…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 20 2007,13:41)Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 20 2007,12:39)Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 20 2007,12:36)To be honest (and I'm always honest) You couldn't keep the Sabbath, not spiritually anyway because your heart is not in it.No one knows the heart of another man.Brother, you are not able to look past the critical pettiness of it all, and that…[Read more]

I wanted to *bump* this thread on the Sabbath again because the VIDEO Debra shared is worth looking at. I thought it was really, really good.Mandy

Yes, I understand that the Seventh Day is the Sabbath. My question is are you free to do what you want to on the Sabbath?

Quote (michaels @ Aug. 20 2007,12:51)Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 20 2007,03:24)Ken writes:Since Pentecost was fulfilled we have the Holy Spirit to guide us.  Jesus taught that the Law was no longer physical but spiritual, Mat 5:27, 28.  Paul said the  law was spiritual, Rom 7:14.**********************Ken, you say that Jesus taught the Law is no lo…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 20 2007,12:36)To be honest (and I'm always honest) You couldn't keep the Sabbath, not spiritually anyway because your heart is not in it.No one knows the heart of another man.Brother, you are not able to look past the critical pettiness of it all, and that is sad. You have missed an opportunity to teach and to share what you…[Read more]

Quote (Laurel @ Aug. 13 2007,03:55)I spent probably 3 months, trying to figure out the true Sabbath. That was a little over 3 years ago. Since then, I have been a changed person, even though my baptism with water was many years ago.Sister,If it took you 3 months to figure out the Sabbath….have compassion on those of us who are entertaining the…[Read more]

Laurel,Very nice poem.I'm responding to your claims that those of us who celebrate holidays will have to “depart” from our dear Lord because he never knew us.  Are you fit to judge God's children?  Please show me in scripture where we are not to celebrate holidays or birthdays, and I'll believe it.  So far you've only produced a vague scripture in…[Read more]

KJ, very curious indeed.Could it be because the gospel of John has it's foundations in the prologue which for many, is the evidence that Jesus IS God?Thanks for all the verses on the Commandments – as you know we are discussing this with some energy in other threads.

Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 20 2007,07:31)People get upset when I say you are following the Harlot.  Well if you are breaking one of His commandments that the NEW Testament clearly says we should keep.  Then who are you following….GOD?This is exactly my question of you, Ken…..If the NT says to keep the seventh day Sabbath, then I believe it, and I…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 20 2007,07:26)Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 20 2007,06:53)Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 20 2007,03:33)You are confused with the OT covenant and the New covenant.Rom 7:14  For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am of the flesh, sold under sin. The Old testament people did NOT have the Spirit to guide them. They HAD to go to the letter…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 20 2007,03:33)You are confused with the OT covenant and the New covenant.Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am of the flesh, sold under sin. The Old testament people did NOT have the Spirit to guide them. They HAD to go to the letter for instruction.OK, here we go – the above post is the meat of the…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 20 2007,06:07)There is no need to put ourselves into bondage with matters such as these.Amen, brother!

Quote (elaine1809 @ Aug. 20 2007,01:55)Not3 : I agree with you on the birthdays, but if you were to find out that the candles on the cake were  originated  from a PAGAN practiced and common people adopted the pagan custom  do you think JESUS would use the candles on the cake?Hi Elaine,I've been enjoying your posts and your questions.In 1 Co…[Read more]

Quote (Debra @ Aug. 19 2007,17:14)Well that's answered one question for me.Oh, my goodness. This was gooooooooood. I really did not know a lot of what this short video shared. I felt a little sick to my stomach while I was listening to it. Maybe it was the dramatic music, or maybe it was God's spirit telling me what I was hearing was true.…[Read more]

Ken writes:Since Pentecost was fulfilled we have the Holy Spirit to guide us.  Jesus taught that the Law was no longer physical but spiritual, Mat 5:27, 28.  Paul said the  law was spiritual, Rom 7:14.**********************Ken, you say that Jesus taught the Law is no longer physical but spiritual.  Does this mean that certain Laws are no lon…[Read more]

Quote (michaels @ Aug. 19 2007,16:19)Are all traditions bad or pagen?I thought I would “bump” this topic and see if there is any interest in discussing what other's have found to be “pagen” in nature that we accept readily as TRADITION.  I'd be interested to know sources of information claiming a tradition is pagen.  Thanks. Not3in1 how about g…[Read more]

We now have 2 “Sabbath” threads – which one should we use and which one should Heaven lock?I'm highly interested in this topic. That is, if our two main teacher's can see through the challenges and remain open to teaching without giving in to sarcasm and critical judgement of other's.Really Laurel, saying I was “babbling” was not very kind.…[Read more]