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    Quote (PatBiglane @ Oct. 21 2007,03:52)Not3, Mandy, I was blessed to read that you've studied under the Abrahamic Faith Church.  Actually, your church is affliated with ours.  In fact, several in our church have gone down to the Atlanta Bible College and studied under Anthony B. & Joe M.  I could chat more about this, but I don't know if this is…[Read more]

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    He is the prototype, the firstborn. He is the mystery that was hidden but has been revealed in our time.The above is a quote from t8 in one of the scriptural debates with Isaiah.  T8 also says that Jesus is a divine human.  I'm wondering if he can elaborate here as this relates to conception?  T8?  Thanks.

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    Jodi,I watched the Wuzzles video – too cute. Actually you are correct, Jesus is a mixture of God and Man. What came of that union is a Divine Man – the first one of it's kind. A firstfruit, if you will. We will follow.The disciples called Jesus a man, this is true. But they also recognized that he was not like any man they knew! He was a…[Read more]

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    Hi bro,Quote I'm trying to explain that if Jesus were God's biological Son then He certainly had inherited Something from His Father. His eyes…nose…something. If Jesus was a supernatural…And Being A Biological Son Of God….Then He Had to Have been A “Supernatural” Person.Being a supernatural person and tempted then it would not be the…[Read more]

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    Hi Jodi,Quote Do you think it was necessary for God to make Jesus part Himself in order for him to be perfect?No. Quote Mandy, where in the bible does it say that Jesus was only part human?In the Gospels we are told that God's holy spirit helped to conceive Jesus. Joseph was not the physical father of Jesus – God Almighty was/is! You tell me…[Read more]

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    Sorry all,I just came back to the computer. I started to modify my past post hours ago….I got called away from the computer and just now posted the modified version.We are also getting ready to harvest our pumpkins and so I must get going. I will be back later to check in. Thanks brother's and sister's.

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    Quote (kenrch @ Oct. 20 2007,01:02)Please answer this question Mandy.Because you say Jesus was God in flesh also;  When Jesus died did that God part in Jesus' flesh die?Given what you are saying I believe it is a fair question.Hi brother,This is certainly a fair question, and I will try to answer it as best that I can.Ken, I've been trying to…[Read more]

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    Jodi and Isaiah,Enjoy these baby days. They don't last very long……..:)

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    I am praying and contemplating both Jodi's and Stu's posts here.  I believe, as a member said recently, “.,…there is something to this that we are not yet getting……” and I believe this is true.  I believe we have skated around the obvious and created (using our own intellect) a substitute for the truth.God had a Son.  An “only” Son.  T…[Read more]

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    Thank you, David.Excellent explaination!I am a firm believer in admitting one's mistakes and moving on (making corrections and moving on).  It's the “forgetting what is behind and pressing forward” that Paul teaches.  We can't hang on to the past, we can only press on towards the goal.  If certain belief systems are keeping us from the goal – th…[Read more]

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    My brother,I have repected your opinon and ability to hold a debate to the truth. I have watched you grow in a very short period of time. Kevin, let the Spirit lead you, and have fun!Love to you, Mandy

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    Quote (david @ Oct. 21 2007,09:29)Quote Maybe you would know? And if so, isn't this interesting? Thanks. Well, it's not really interesting to me, at least, not in the tone I believe you're taking. At Bethel, there's old pictures of them celebrating Christmas. We know they used to do this.There was no “tone” I was simply interested in the…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ Oct. 21 2007,09:29)In your own quote, you answer this:”The Watchtower was exactly right! Quoting the December 1, 1904Sorry David, you misunderstand. The first part of my post was the QUOTE that I was quoting! Ha! So, I didn't say “The Watchtower was exactly right!” it was the quote I wanted more information about. Sorry that…[Read more]

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    Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 19 2007,07:09)Actually, more people attend on Easter Sunday, but perhaps Christmas time is next .I guess that depends on where you get your facts from. Some say Christmas while other's say Easter.Tomato – Tomoto!

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    Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 18 2007,14:58)So if you care to celebrate Christmas, then recognize that you are NOT celebrating Christ's birthday, but Mithras'.Here you are judging those who celebrate Christmas in saying, “Well, you think you are celebrating Christ's birthday, but you are really celebrating this pagen gods birthday.” I do not agree with…[Read more]

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    The Watchtower was exactly right! Quoting the December 1, 1904, issue we read on page 364: “Since the celebration of our Lord's birth is not a matter of divine appointment or injunction, but merely a tribute of respect to him, it is not necessary for us to quibble particularly about the date. We may as well join with the civilized world in…[Read more]

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    Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 19 2007,06:53)And finally, the statement about you being a truth seeker was a reminder of why you are here. You have often stated that is what you are here for. Yet it displeases you when I reveal that Dec 25th had nefarious origins, and why I personally feel it is the wrong day to observe Yeshua's birthday. I am sorry if it…[Read more]

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    KJ,Debating is passionate business. We can point fingers all day long as to who is being judgmental and who is angry – it doesn't benefit anyone, I guess. I've watched pages and pages of posts go by that are centered around this very thing. It takes our eyes off the prize, so forgive me for falling into that practice. Hopefully you know by now…[Read more]

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    Quote (Eliyah @ Oct. 11 2005,16:09)Here is one place where you can find out about the pagan relics.Just click on the pictures.http://www.sabbatarian.com/Paganism/Photos.htmlAs a truth seeker…..smile….. I have been reading more on this topic here. I found this old post. The link is very interesting, it has a lot of slanted views, but still…[Read more]

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    Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 18 2007,18:49)Hey, don't look to me for explanation. I'm still learning myself! If you really want to learn, let the Spirit lead! That's the way it was always meant to be.Yes, of course the Spirit is the best teacher. But sometimes it would be nice to have physical support and fellowship. That is all I meant. I dont' look…[Read more]

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