Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 25 2007,03:07)He is not the Father but he is also God.I could almost understand it if we just kept it to the fact that because God is a type of being, and he had a Son, that his son would be God too. This makes sense to me. For God could beget after his own “kind.” That is, of course, if he didn't have help from a…[Read more]

Quote (gladtidings @ Oct. 25 2007,02:20)Hey Mandy!Yeah, I stole every bit of this info. from the Truth or Tradition site.  (Glad Tidings is Pat..Ha! I changed my username.)Anyway, I'm GLAD your are here, and I'm looking forward to your comments.Right on, PAT! Good to hear from you again.Yes, keep sharing this good information. I love the CES…[Read more]

Ken,Wow, great post!As I have been studying the Sabbath and enjoying the Sabbath – I have come to see that what you are saying is truth. But I do believe that some things are spiritually discerned and that is why I always say, “Truth comes to us all…..eventually!” Because the Lord is truth, and he will reveal his Father (and purposes) to…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 25 2007,02:30)But modern day Christianity is so far from the original Christianity that it is no longer recognizable.KJ,I'm finding this to be true, too. I'm really disappointed in the truth that I am finding. Ha! I know that sounds funny, but I feel like I have been lied to on so many topics of Christianity. Now, having…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Oct. 24 2007,18:40)Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 24 2007,06:52)Stu,Can you challenge something you cannot see, touch, taste, smell or hear?  Neuroscientists can see a picture of your brainwaves on a screen when they wire you up and show you, say, devotional images or read prayers.  The faith is in the communication between neurons.  My ch…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 24 2007,18:50)Why is it so hard to believe that Jesus can be both the son of God and God.Because my son cannot be his father. They are two seperate people. A “son” by definition, if words mean anything, is to be derived and dependent. Not soley in function/status, but also by nature a son is derived. Still human,…[Read more]

WJ,I'm heading to bed but wanted to add a couple things.Hey, first of all, don't be such a pessimist!  Quote You are welcome. I hope I helped. I doubt it though!You DO help me!  And I do take what you say to heart, brother.  Believe me, I have many notes written down that were taken from various posts made by YOU.  So, thanks again.Quote Jn 1:3…[Read more]

Gladtidings – WELCOME!Thanks for sharing and I hope to hear more from you. Did you bring the above information from the truthortradition.com website? I'm just curious because I visit their site often and enjoy their research.

Quote (Samuel @ Oct. 24 2007,17:39)PRAISE GOD…THANK YOU JESUS…OH THANK YOU JESUS FOR NOT COMING DOWN OFF THAT CROSS…THANK YOU JESUS THANK YOU JESUS!  Glory! the enemy has been defeated …Victory in the LORD JESUS CHRIST…the Living Christ…the Perfect LAMB.  There is Power in the Blood of the lamb! Power! Power! Wonder working Power! in t…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 24 2007,17:21)I believe he was the Word/God who came in the flesh who also became a Son.God changes not.God is not a man.

Hi Jodi,I'll try to answer the things you've asked of me, however I confess that I'm pretty tired tonight.Jesus is considered God's Son according to birth because he was conceived by God's holy spirit.  I take this literally, and scripture does not tell us not to take it literally.  Furthermore, it gives no other explaination of Jesus' birth o…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 24 2007,12:20)If he was the “root” of David then that means that David came from Christ, by whom and through whom all things were made.WJ,Take it one step further……who is the “root” of Christ? That being said, did David come from Christ, or from the Father (who is the “root” and “source” of everything).As well -…[Read more]

Quote (Mr. Steve @ Oct. 24 2007,09:34)WJ;A very well deliberated and executed post.  I would only add that Christ spoke of a relationship with his Father before the foundation of the world and before he was sent down from heaven.  There can be nothing metaphorical about a relationship.  So when Christ was in heaven with his father he could have on…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 24 2007,13:25)Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 24 2007,13:02)Very interesting thing I heard today…and it rang so true in my soul. Israel was given the Sabbath and Christians moved away from it to Sunday. Muslims moved their day to Friday. Both use the Jewish scriptures as the basis of their religion. But the speaker said that…[Read more]

Good stuff here, Jodi. Thank you. I'm going to tuck the kids into bed and be back a bit later to read it all through again (a little slower this time). Be back in a bit.

I've heard that we are getting ready to oppose Isreal now……… Oh, goodness!Does anyone remember that scary Rapture movie of the 70's that they used to show in all the churches? I think it was called, “Left Behind” and it was the original of the now-modern-day book series that goes by the same title. Anyway, I'll never forget that movie.…[Read more]

Stu,Can you challenge something you cannot see, touch, taste, smell or hear?

Sis Irene and Charity,Sing with me – do you know this song?The Joy of the LORD is my strength,The Joy of the LORD is my strength,The Joy of the LORD is my strength,The Joy of the LORD is my strength!He gives me living water and I thirst no more,He gives me living water and I thirst no more,He gives me living water and I thirst no more,The Joy of…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 24 2007,06:12)Jesus body is the firstborn of the New Creation.Sincere question here: If Jesus is the second person of God, and he is the firstborn of the new Creation, when we are re-born and part of the new Creation…..will be be God, too?You see my logic? If we follow Christ as the firstfruit, and he is God, we…[Read more]

Quote (Jodi @ Oct. 24 2007,03:21)Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 23 2007,15:25)Hi WJ,Quote Your opinion. I could also say that if you deny that Jesus came in the flesh then you are of the spirit of antichrist.I have never denied that Jesus came in the flesh.  He was born, wasn't he?  Quote But jesus conception is not a “natural conception” is it?I believe t…[Read more]