Quote (Stu @ Nov. 19 2007,20:39)I wonder why there is such a striking difference between the OT god and the NT god.Different administrations.Wouldn't a son run his father's business a little differently?

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 19 2007,20:39)So far the only answer that has made even the remotest sense to me has been Towshab’s.Go figure. Why doesn't that suprise me?Why is it that you have a remarkable ability to defuse anger or seemingly direct insults? Are you a politician? At any rate Stu, you are who you are and I am who I am. We have our belief s…[Read more]

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I have a book on my shelf titled: Oneness Pentecostals & The Trinity by Gregory A. BoydIt was written by a world-wide movment assessed by a former Oneness Pentecostal. It's pretty good and gives an overall summary of the beliefs and pitfalls of the religion.

And your words……”I will leave this alone.”

Quote (david @ Nov. 19 2007,17:36)Quote Yes, thank you for reminding me.  I stand by what I have said.  –Not3What you said was: “I caution those who feed this fire.  You avail nothing, but to only further puts his words of falsehood out there for more to stumble on.”If you stand by these words, then you must believe that “you avail nothing” by sp…[Read more]

Yes, good point. The “love” of money is the evil……

Sam – ask t8 for “editing rights” in the “Help Desk” thread.

Tow,Are you saying the serpant wasn't really a serpant at all but a “allegory” for something else? What is so different between this logic and what I was trying to say regarding the handling of snakes? Man, you can't have it your way all the time. Let's show some consistency here.

People who went to church said that people don't really like to hear the truth? Well, there is some truth in that! Ha!I grew up with a “version” of the truth. As I'm sure most folks have if they were raised in the church.Listening to, researching, or pondering other teachings is not easy. Fear is a good glue to keep you stuck where you are.…[Read more]

Yes, thank you for reminding me. I stand by what I have said. If caution is not observed, one could stumble. Investigating the truth is not for the faint of heart.

Forgive me, but I am suspicious of you Tow.

It seems then, that you believe in a Creator that suits you. You feel free to cut and paste the OT and delete the NT to suit what you personally believe about God. What do you think gives you this right? Do you think that you can believe bits and pieces? Why believe any of it then? That is a precarious faith if you ask me?You maybe would like…[Read more]

I'm curious Tow – chat with Kejonn much lately?It's interesting how he left the scene and you appear on the scene? Hmmmm……. It's also interesting how Kejonn has two different computer locations……. It's also interesting that Kejonn was investigating what you seem so convinced of……… It's also interesting that you both are never…[Read more]

Irene,That is why the word says that you cannot serve both God and money. Money is indeed the root of all kinds of evil. My mom used to always say (speaking of money), “It doesn't matter if you don't have enough of it, or if you have too much of it, it will always be a problem.” She was right.

I am listening to it. What makes you think I am not?The warning was that Tow was never known to the Lord. That he is a stranger among us. I believe this, and I am fully aware.

Quote (david @ Nov. 19 2007,16:24)Quote David,To be honest, I've had it with what Stu is saying.  I think it is down-right raw.  I cannot stand back and continue to say nothing when he calls my Father – Nasty!  Can you?  For the sake of good entertainment, will you continue to engage someone who says this about your God?  I cannot!So to answ…[Read more]

de·ism       (dē'ĭz'əm, dā'-)  Pronunciation Key  n.   The belief, based solely on reason, in a God who created the universe and then abandoned it, assuming no control over life, exerting no influence on natural phenomena, and giving no supernatural revelation.Wow – is this really what you believe, Tow?Do you really think the waves know their…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 19 2007,05:43)I would be interested if you could describe some things you think I might do that are done only on faith.You are so full of pride it is scary.You take your next breath based on faith, man! Listen, you have no evidence or proof that you will draw another glorious breath of life in the next minute do you? Oh, sure,…[Read more]

Ya, maybe let's drop the whole “point” thing. I like to participate when this thread is open and folks are participating – I don't need points. It's just a fun break from defending the “faith” that is not so fragile!