Quote (Towshab @ Jan. 10 2008,20:35)But eternal torture seems to be OK. According to Rev. its a Pay-per-view event in heaven.Speaking of hell…..If God knows all, why did he create a race of people that would end up disobeying him and being “cast into” this hell? Wouldn't that be cruel? And if he didn't know what these folks ultimate choice…[Read more]

Brother Nick,Quote We, who are in Christ, do have the truth and it is defined as the Word of GodI have come to believe, as of late, that the words Word of God and Definition are oxymorons.'If truth must be found in the Word of God, which is not definite on anything, all I can say is God help us!Quote The one who is truth and who offers us the…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 10 2008,20:11)Quote (Not3in1 @ Jan. 10 2008,19:03)Stu,Given any thought to Christian Science and what those folks have to offer?  Just curious.They believe the material world is a spiritual illusion; I believe it is reality;  they don't use modern medicine; if I stopped taking mine I would be dead within weeks; they believe t…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 11 2008,02:40)Who is right? Well, unless you can convince someone otherwise, they are. To themselves at least. At the same time, you will think you have truth.Brother, you have found the bottom line.

The line of distinction has been drawn by many a killer. Ted Bundy, for instance, thought that he was ridding the world of slutty hitch-hikers. Justified? Sure.On this lovely note I'm heading to bed. Thanks for the chat, Paul. Take care and kisses to the babies – hope you guys are sleeping through the night by now?Love ya bro,Mandy

Stu,Given any thought to Christian Science and what those folks have to offer? Just curious.

So we can kill people if there is enough “just cause”? We are still forbidden to murder. Both in the OT and the NT this is forbidden and as such, a breech of the Law. Why is OK for God to kill then? Further, why is it OK for him to order other's to kill when his Law clearly says it is a sin? Sounds like conflicting orders to me.

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Jan. 10 2008,18:21)You would probaby say me while WJ would probably say Nick. Mind you that would be subjective opinion, not objective truth (although one is right).So truth is a guessing game then?It's kinda like being told that you have to pay your mortgage or you will lose your house, but no one tells you how much to pay or…[Read more]

I like that God has proven himself to me and gained my trust. That is a neat bit of insight that I believe is so true.Thanks for the thoughts on this, Jodi. I appreciate your view and opinons very much.I better head to bed soon, we have painters coming in the morning bright and early. Thanks for the blessings! Back at'cha,Mandy

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Jan. 10 2008,18:28)Perhaps YHWH knew exactly what was required to turn a nation from the course it was on (which would have lead to a calamity far greater than it suffered in it's rebuke) to a course that would see it arrive safely in the land it was promised. Perhaps the deaths of many of this nations enemies was the only way to…[Read more]

Using Nick and yourself as examples, I'm curious, which one of you is choosing not to be guided?  

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Jan. 10 2008,18:07)I thought you would have known all this stuff Mandy.Oh, don't mind me – I'm throwing out everything I thought I knew. I'm starting from scratch. Your main point was that truth is a solid definition. That truth is somehow given or guided through the Spirit. But when it comes to deciding who has this “real”…[Read more]

There we go deciding what the NT writers really intended. Was Paul making an exclusivistic statement? Maybe he was? Maybe he wasn't.

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Jan. 10 2008,17:53)Quote (Not3in1 @ Jan. 10 2008,17:48)Until then, pure “truth” evades us.John 16:1313Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.Would you say that Nick…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Jan. 10 2008,17:54)Quote (Not3in1 @ Jan. 10 2008,17:51)The NT tells us that there is one God, the Father, and that there is one Lord, Jesus Christ.So the Father is not our Lord??You tell me, I'm just quoting scripture here.I believe “Lord” has many definitions throughout scripture. Certainly “Lord” or “LORD” is attributed to the…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Jan. 10 2008,17:49)When I used the term Lord I meant YHWH. There is only one, regardless of what people think. You agree with this much, right?The NT tells us that there is one God, the Father, and that there is one Lord, Jesus Christ.I do believe there is a God in heaven.

Until then, pure “truth” evades us.

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Jan. 10 2008,17:24)The law of noncontradiction (also called the law of contradiction) states, in the words of Aristotle, that “one cannot say of something that it is and that it is not in the same respect and at the same time”. source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_noncontradictionThe Bible is either the word of God, or it…[Read more]

Truth is relative to culture and a host of other factor's.One could say tha the bible is truth, or as you have said, “The Lord, He is truth.” But who is the Lord? If you were born in America, the “Lord” is Jesus. If you were born somewhere else, the “Lord” may be a statue. Who has the truth? If there is indeed only one truth.

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Jan. 10 2008,17:24)On these issues some members here are right, and some are not.Ah, yes.And who decides which members have it right? You?Your truth is different from my truth. Who decides who is right? The bible? God? The local pastor?