So, what did you find out?

Quote (942767 @ Feb. 25 2008,06:38)The ultimate sign prior to his coming is the Abomination of Desolation.What is this Abomination of Desolation?

Quote (Stu @ April 12 2008,16:45)Quote (Not3in1 @ April 12 2008,12:39)I don't know, what I've read of Payne so far leads me to believe he is convinced of an Almighty.Can you say what convinced him?  Was it the same thing that convinced others, that the Judeo-christian god makes no sense at all but we cannot just have appeared from nowhere (the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2008,16:55)Hi Stu, You certainly rely on men of knowledge and worldly influence and quote many. Is this because you have difficulty working stuff out yourself?Good grief.You love to pick fights don't you, bro?Love cover's a multitude of sins.”When you love someone you have no time to judge them”Mother Theresa

Actually, WJ just prefers a different interpretation of men.You chose one interpretation of scripture, and he chose another.Scripture lends itself to BOTH VIEWS.

Quote (942767 @ April 12 2008,14:44)Quote (Not3in1 @ April 12 2008,11:37)Quote (942767 @ April 12 2008,11:33)It is through Noah and his family that the world was repopulated after the flood, and thus a new beginning.It's interesting that the brother's went different ways and different people were formed through them.  Interesting how it seemed…[Read more]

OK, yes I tend to lean towards this deism belief and/or philosophy. I'm not totally sold out on all it's beliefs, but quite a few of them certainly sound reasonable to me. Of course, I would consider myself a Unitarian before I would consider myself a Trinitarian (sorry, WJ). And I most definitely do not consider that God is dead!

Hi WJ,I was just thinking about you today! How have you been, bro? Sure good to see you here. Hope you have more to contribute.Nick, I'm going to check out the websites you listed now. I've been reading a bit on deism and it doesn't sound near as hopeless as you are presenting it. But maybe I'm missing something? Thanks.

I don't know, what I've read of Payne so far leads me to believe he is convinced of an Almighty.

Can you imagine dying by being stoned to death? My goodness. It may take a while for the big one to hit you cold in the head! Ouch!

I do think God is a shephard of sorts. He watches over us (lliterally) and he feeds us by providing the earth and it's bounty.

Gotcha.But you think this of Deists? Why?

Ya, I hear ya. It does sound pretty hard to believe.

Quote (Stu @ April 12 2008,11:56)Quote (Not3in1 @ April 12 2008,11:50)Quote (Stu @ April 12 2008,11:38)Quote (Not3in1 @ April 12 2008,11:37)Quote (942767 @ April 12 2008,11:33)It is through Noah and his family that the world was repopulated after the flood, and thus a new beginning.It's interesting that the brother's went different ways and…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ April 12 2008,11:38)Quote (Not3in1 @ April 12 2008,11:37)Quote (942767 @ April 12 2008,11:33)It is through Noah and his family that the world was repopulated after the flood, and thus a new beginning.It's interesting that the brother's went different ways and different people were formed through them.  Interesting how it seemed that…[Read more]

I have no idea what your point is here, Nick? I agree with everything you wrote.From what I understand Diest's believe in God, and presume they are “known” by God as much as we are.As far as “action” is concerned, it takes faith to believe in God – yes. Diests have faith.I notice that you use the word “vanity” quite a lot. What exactly are you…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ April 12 2008,11:33)It is through Noah and his family that the world was repopulated after the flood, and thus a new beginning.It's interesting that the brother's went different ways and different people were formed through them. Interesting how it seemed that when they arrived in these regions, there were people already there?

Quote (Cato @ April 12 2008,05:30)Samuel,This is one of your better posts, you come across better when your not angry or judgemental.  Rational and well stated, good post.Amen! Way to go bro, Sam! Keep it up.

Sis,I would rather give you my home number and chat with you over tea and folding laundry! Have a good day, I'm off to tackle the laundry pile (I hate doing laundry – it was my chore as a kid).Mandy

http://www.deism.com is a pretty interesting/informative site. I found that I could disagree with very little.