My son just came to me and asked about all the Kings of Israel.  He's been reading his bible before bed.He recounted for me the stories of the many Kings who died and who were replaced by other's and then they died (they were murdered and so on).  After about 10 minutes of chatting my son says to me, “Mom, there was a lot of murder in the bible.  …[Read more]

Ah yes, but there's more……..There was a reason that Moses was the servant and Jesus is the Son.We are talking about the nature and person of Jesus Christ. What was the difference between the nature and person of Moses and Jesus Christ?Their sonship was certainly different. Did the difference in their sonship directly corrolate with their…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2008,12:17)Hi not3, Yes just as ordinary men came from the breath of God and prophets were ordinary men changed by God.But remember, I'm not the one who is differentiating between common men (including Moses and the prophets), God's word does. So there must be a difference. Again, I ask you, what could this difference…[Read more]

David,To be honest, your posts to DK are freaking me out a little bit. It almost sounds like the JW's are like the Mason's with their weirdo hand-shakes and secret riddles. They will “DFyou” if you don't comply. Almost sounds like you're swearing! Anyway, the degree to which you seem to demand compliance is strange. It makes me feel really…[Read more]

I believe that the two are related (funny choice of words).Because of Jesus' status as true and literal Son, his position was higher and dearer. Surely a son is more dear to you than a servant?

Ordinary men are conceived by God's holy spirit and given birth through a virgin?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2008,09:17)Hi not3, Peter quoted Moses in Acts 3 about the prophet like to him who would come. Moses was an ordinary man made extraordinary by God's Spirit.Moses is certainly “like” Jesus because they were both born of a women.But God makes a distinction between them in Hebrews. One is a servant over the house, while…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ May 30 2008,10:22)Quote (Not3in1 @ May 30 2008,08:36)Cato,I was thinking the very same things.I've often wondered about our universe and what is beyond our comprehension at this time.But I do think that it is the trick of the opposing force to get us sidetracked……into thinking about UFO's instead of the gospel and how to…[Read more]

Cato,I was thinking the very same things.I've often wondered about our universe and what is beyond our comprehension at this time.But I do think that it is the trick of the opposing force to get us sidetracked……into thinking about UFO's instead of the gospel and how to live it, and spread it, imo.

DK,You're in the perfect position then to delve into this topic! Why do you think God used conception to bring his Son into the world? If Jesus was already existing and all he needed was a “body prepared for him”, why not just do a “Adam trick” and blow some dust around? Or perhaps use a human already alive and transform them by his Spirit?

DK,Excellent testimony you are giving here.I have to ask – what does “dirtyknections” stand for?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2008,07:14)Quote (Not3in1 @ May 30 2008,06:42)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2008,06:26)Amen not3, Before he partook of our fleshly estate.I don't agree.He emptied himself of these privileges after he shared in our humanity.  Otherwise, how could he be like us?  He certainly didn't come to help the angels but Abe's d…[Read more]

Hi DK,Quote he was able to do things that…an ordinary man could not do.. mainly because of his divine attributesJesus told us he could do nothing of himself. That includes being able to do nothing of himself through his divine attributes, imo.Quote his form was “entirely different”…But we are told that his form wasn't different, in fact we…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2008,07:19)Quote (Not3in1 @ May 30 2008,06:30)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2008,06:16)Hi not3, It seems conception relates only to the body of flesh.We are made in the image of God but that does not relate to the invisible God.Surely God blew His divine breath into the dust of earth and man became an integrated body,…[Read more]

I also wanted to add that Jesus was exhaulted to the “highest place” because he obeyed.If he already existed, did he exist on a lower plane that that of the one he was awarded for good behavior? If not, what would be the bonus is being exhaulted?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2008,06:26)Amen not3, Before he partook of our fleshly estate.I don't agree.He emptied himself of these privileges after he shared in our humanity. Otherwise, how could he be like us? He certainly didn't come to help the angels but Abe's decendants.Philip. 2…..being found as a man, he humbled himself and became…[Read more]

Quote (dirtyknections @ May 30 2008,06:23)sorry..”read along with the paragraph”….hey Mandy..how do you edit posts?Find the member “t8” and use the icon at the bottom of his posts that says, “PM”. This is his private messenger and ask him to give you editing rights.

Quote (dirtyknections @ May 30 2008,06:18)I believe the human characteristics needed to make a human form of jesus…is what was transfered..I follow you.But if “Jesus” was already existing in heaven and then transformed into a seed capable of being divided many times over with Mary's DNA…..don't you think your “Jesus” would end up being someone…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2008,06:16)Hi not3, It seems conception relates only to the body of flesh.We are made in the image of God but that does not relate to the invisible God.Surely God blew His divine breath into the dust of earth and man became an integrated body, soul and spirit.Hi Nick,It seems that there is a difference between the sons…[Read more]

Jesus emptied himself of any advantages he inherited. He *became* like you and me.