NickOK, but I still think we are straying off topic a bit.

For some wierd reason on the board it is showing Nick as having the last post on this thread right now, but I do?  Hm, just posting this to see if it will change?  Little glitch in the system or something….Oops it caught up – everythings OK now.

Nah, I wasn't offended by it.I didn't like your interpretation of it.

Quote (david @ May 31 2008,12:36)judgment where needed, mercy wherever possible.David,I want to believe this too.But some of the questions my son had were pretty basic. Like why did God order that man's family to be killed along with him? He was the one who sinned – why did God kill his wife and children?Sigh…..Why would the God we love do…[Read more]

What does that have to do with the difference in sonship between Moses and Jesus while on earth?

I agree with the scriptures you are quoting, but I believe we are getting a bit off topic.

Please expound on what? The gospels? They are pretty plain. Even my 9 year old can understand them.

Jesus was made a little lower than the angels.  How is it that Moses could be “above” the angels?Besides, this passage you quoted is directed at Jesus.  The Son of God had a unique call on his life that didn't apply to other “sons” of God. Moses could not save us.  He didn't even get to pass over into the promise land.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 31 2008,18:04)Hi not3, How should it be shown?Just as it is in the gospels.I think those brother's did a fine job.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 31 2008,17:58)Hi not3, I tell you what scripture says. But it offends you?Hebrews 10:5Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:Ha – no scripture does not offend me. But your interpretation of that scripture does at times.

I agree with you. But that has really nothing to do with what we are talking about.But I can use what you are saying and say that Moses would not have had “roles” that would be above angels. Again, Jesus' position is different. What is the difference? You like to compare him to Moses, but obviously there is no comparison.

Bodies are not “prepared” for individuals. They are created by the breath of God, or they are created in the womb of a women.Both have procedures and rules to follow.You change the rules to suit your theology.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 31 2008,17:42)Imagine that, that in the throne, the center and focus of my life would be just a mere man and not God? Not!!!Brother,Jesus came to point us to his Father. He wanted us to know that his Father is our Father, too. He told us that there would be a day when we wouldn't need to ask (Jesus) anything, that…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 31 2008,17:29)Hi not3, The monogenes son, who was before Abraham, David and John chose obedience, emptied himself was sent into the world in the likeness of men.OK.This is the quilt of your belief system, all nicely sewn together in one sentence. Many verses and ideas into one dogma. Sounds good, but I don't agree with…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 31 2008,16:44)Quote (Not3in1 @ May 30 2008,16:54)Ah yes, but there's more……..There was a reason that Moses was the servant and Jesus is the Son.We are talking about the nature and person of Jesus Christ.  What was the difference between the nature and person of Moses and Jesus Christ?Their sonship was certainly…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ May 31 2008,14:39)If so God could have transferred such existing being into a baby directly as we indian believe in incarnation and reincarnation but not for Jew.Exactly, bro!Preexistence definitely lends itself to incarnation theories and the trinity belief. That is why those that hold to these theories have so much in common…[Read more]

Nick,The HOWS are often explained by example or history. I don't believe God likes to through his creation into confusion. Just like we teach our children by example, he also uses what we already know to show us the way. We build concept upon concept.Otherwise we are left to our own imaginations and assumptions. You know where that leads don't…[Read more]

Quote (david @ May 30 2008,20:03)Mandy, I don't want you to join in. I just wanted you to go and meet the people so you have some idea of what we're all speaking about.Thanks for the info, David, and the scriptures.I probably will join them for a few meetings. I know they will be totally shocked to see me strolling in….. They leave my door…[Read more]

Quote (dirtyknections @ May 31 2008,00:33)It is rare that you will get an offer from someone to do intense and focused BIBLE research..using alternative sources to help you come to your OWN conclusion about what the scriptures say….DK,I have had several really good studies with these ladies. They've been coming to my door for years now. They…[Read more]

Well, we continued to read 2 Kings this morning…..he is facinated with all the Kings and what God tells them to do. Great.When I told my husband that our son was questioning why the God of the OT kills a lot and the God of the NT seems to be more about “turning the other cheek”, he just said, “Tell him that there are two different…[Read more]